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  • #16
    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    Lets look at the situation going into our playoff game last season.

    1. We had no running game
    2. Deihl was starting at LEFT TACKLE
    3. They had a great power running game
    4. Corey Webster was our starting CB.

    How did that turn out?
    Hey man, I definitely hope you are right!

    1. True
    2. Diehl wasn't AS much the liability he is this year. But yes, he was bad in an important position
    3. Not really. Turner was ok and they really weren't using Rogers like they have this season. He is their future and they know it
    4. Webster has significantly digressed this season. I don't think anyone can debate that

    ADDITION: We are playing them IN ATLANTA

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
      Lets look at the situation going into our playoff game last season.

      1. We had no running game
      2. Deihl was starting at LEFT TACKLE
      3. They had a great power running game
      4. Corey Webster was our starting CB.

      How did that turn out?
      Last december:
      1) Tuck and Osi were playing like they cared.
      2) We have the Cowboys number in december, and last year they were the only divisional threat.
      3) Cruz wasn't dropping balls by this point in the season.
      4) All the injuries prior in the season were coming back online. This time we've got people going inactive (Brown, Locklear, Hixon, Williams)

      PS: I still think we need to find one game to just start Tracy and Ojomo. Tuck and Osi just look like they don't care anymore, and since TC won't ever start rookies, they know their jobs are secure for the time being...

      I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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      • #18
        Tha Giants will beat the Falcons and Ravens, because thats what the Giants do against good teams on the road @ 1 o'clock. (book it)

        Saints W/L
        Falcons W
        Raven W
        Eagles W

        Gut feelings tell me they win the next 3 out of 4 or run the table. Maybe I'm feeling a little optimistic this Wednesday morning or maybe it's the coffee, but I wouldn't have the remaining schedule any other way.

        Go Giants!!!!

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        • #19
          I think the Giants have the players to run the table, including the Falcons.

          Once again, just like last season, I'm worried about Fewell and Gilbride.....sometimes I think the players make them both look alot better than they are.

          Then again, last season worked out okay....so I'll just hope for the best.

          However, if we see the same frightened schemes from Fewell that we saw against RG3, Brees is going to destroy this defense.

          And, more importantly, hopefully Killdrive will attack the weakness of the Saints defense.....unlike his dopey gameplan against the Skins.

          Eli should have had 400+ yards v. that ****ty Skins pass defense.......but yeah, Gilbride is "The Best There Is."
          "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

          "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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          • #20
            Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
            I think the Giants have the players to run the table, including the Falcons.

            Once again, just like last season, I'm worried about Fewell and Gilbride.....sometimes I think the players make them both look alot better than they are.

            Then again, last season worked out okay....so I'll just hope for the best.

            However, if we see the same frightened schemes from Fewell that we saw against RG3, Brees is going to destroy this defense.
            I would say more Fewell than Gilbride. KG is a very good offensive coordinator and if the team executes the game plan they are among the top in the league. Problem is his game plans are so difficult to execute the team has brain farts too often. It takes a lot of positive emotion to be able to focus enough to grasp the whole thing and execute like last season. The team was running high all through the playoffs, had very few miscommunications, or any other brain farts. That's how you succeed in this kind of offense. Focus.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by VBGiantsFan View Post
              Hey man, I definitely hope you are right!

              1. True
              2. Diehl wasn't AS much the liability he is this year. But yes, he was bad in an important position
              3. Not really. Turner was ok and they really weren't using Rogers like they have this season. He is their future and they know it
              4. Webster has significantly digressed this season. I don't think anyone can debate that

              ADDITION: We are playing them IN ATLANTA
              I'm fine with objective predictions, even if they go against us. But the notion of "guaranteed losses" is what bugs me. There are no such things with our team. We can beat anybody (and soundly) and we've shown that this season.

              As for Atlanta...we've won the last 4 meetings against them, twice in their place.

              And look at it this way. If we had a few less penalties on Monday we'd be 8-4 and we'd all be talking about running the table. Lets all just calm down here.
              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                I'm fine with objective predictions, even if they go against us. But the notion of "guaranteed losses" is what bugs me. There are no such things with our team. We can beat anybody (and soundly) and we've shown that this season.

                As for Atlanta...we've won the last 4 meetings against them, twice in their place.

                And look at it this way. If we had a few less penalties on Monday we'd be 8-4 and we'd all be talking about running the table. Lets all just calm down here.
                well said

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
                  I think the Giants have the players to run the table, including the Falcons.

                  Once again, just like last season, I'm worried about Fewell and Gilbride.....sometimes I think the players make them both look alot better than they are.

                  Then again, last season worked out okay....so I'll just hope for the best.

                  However, if we see the same frightened schemes from Fewell that we saw against RG3, Brees is going to destroy this defense.

                  And, more importantly, hopefully Killdrive will attack the weakness of the Saints defense.....unlike his dopey gameplan against the Skins.

                  Eli should have had 400+ yards v. that ****ty Skins pass defense.......but yeah, Gilbride is "The Best There Is."
                  To be fair, we put 20+ points ourselves on the saints defense both times we met them last. We need to improve on defense for sure though...

                  Is sproles out or no? I forget...

                  I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                    To be fair, we put 20+ points ourselves on the saints defense both times we met them last. We need to improve on defense for sure though...

                    Is sproles out or no? I forget...
                    Sproles is healthy now as far as I know.
                    The reality is that we will probably need to score a lot of points.
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • #25
                      if we win out ....11-5 we win the division.
                      if we go 3-1.......10-6 we can still win the division , if neither Dallas or Wash win out.
                      ........................10-6 we still have a good shot at a wild-card...too early for all those scenarios.

                      9-7 will not get us in this year , as we have no tie-break leverage.

                      it will most likely be that week 17 finds us tied with Wash or Dallas and we will need to beat
                      the Eagles while rooting for whichever team between Dallas and Wash that helps our cause.

                      same old nerve-racking bull-spit.
                      you would think we'd be used to it by now.
                      due to the fact that I am from the Woodstock generation ...
                      my opinions may be chemically enhanced and influenced by severe episodes of memory loss

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by stormblue View Post
                        if we win out ....11-5 we win the division.
                        if we go 3-1.......10-6 we can still win the division , if neither Dallas or Wash win out.
                        ........................10-6 we still have a good shot at a wild-card...too early for all those scenarios.

                        9-7 will not get us in this year , as we have no tie-break leverage.

                        it will most likely be that week 17 finds us tied with Wash or Dallas and we will need to beat
                        the Eagles while rooting for whichever team between Dallas and Wash that helps our cause.

                        same old nerve-racking bull-spit.
                        you would think we'd be used to it by now.
                        9-7 could very well make it since both our rivals are .500 teams now. They also have many very losable games. I can definitely see both Dallas and Washington finishing 8-8. I can definitely see them both losing this week as well.
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                          To be fair, we put 20+ points ourselves on the saints defense both times we met them last. We need to improve on defense for sure though...

                          Is sproles out or no? I forget...
                          If I recall directly, a lot of the points that we put up on the Saints in our last few meetings were during garbage time after they already had the game well in hand.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                            9-7 could very well make it since both our rivals are .500 teams now. They also have many very losable games. I can definitely see both Dallas and Washington finishing 8-8. I can definitely see them both losing this week as well.
                            i appreciate your optimism CC , but the truth is.....

                            Washington has WON...3 of their last 4 (3 in a row)
                            Dallas has WON ..........3 of their last 4 ( that loss to Wash)
                            NY Giants has LOST....3 of their last 4 ( blew out all tie-breaks)

                            the pattern i see developing gives me severe pause for optimism.
                            i will of course root my ice-bucket off until we are eliminated....
                            but i'm sure you can see the reason for my trepidation.
                            due to the fact that I am from the Woodstock generation ...
                            my opinions may be chemically enhanced and influenced by severe episodes of memory loss

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by NYGFaninILL View Post
                              I also see the giants heading in to ATL and hittting them in the mouth. They have a weak schedule and I don't believe they are as good as their record says they are.
                              THANK YOU. I have been wondering all along if Atlanta is a paper tiger. I think so.
                              Just when I don't think it can get any worse, I think of you Ray. I have been to the abyss....thank you for helping me stay positive.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by stormblue View Post
                                i appreciate your optimism CC , but the truth is.....

                                Washington has WON...3 of their last 4 (3 in a row)
                                Dallas has WON ..........3 of their last 4 ( that loss to Wash)
                                NY Giants has LOST....3 of their last 4 ( blew out all tie-breaks)

                                the pattern i see developing gives me severe pause for optimism.
                                i will of course root my ice-bucket off until we are eliminated....
                                but i'm sure you can see the reason for my trepidation.
                                Well Dallas is playing a team that's won 4 straight this week and Washington is playing a team that's 9-3. We could have a 2 game lead after the weekend.
                                Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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