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  • Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
    Your missing the point NO ONE is saying the kid is a HOF, people are just excited cause they see what this kid COULD bring to the table. What's wrong with that?? The kid had a huge day and broke a record for all purpose yards in one game. Yeah it was the Saints defense but he still went out there and did it. The kids had a rough year and he final made plays, people are happy for him.
    No, its alittle diffrent then "people are just excited about what he can bring", or else there woulden't be threads calling about people with critisim about a full yr of nothing outta David WIlson..

    I tell ya what, there wasen't anyone calling out David Wilson after he fumbled and couldent keep the backup job during the first week... I mean, it was only 1wk, for godsake.. It took wk in and wk out of nothing, before real frustration began from people who were critical of the selection... Shoot, even in the draft thread, which is still up by the way, u can see i didn't care for the pick, but still thought he was intriguing and could be a weapon in a DUO backfield... I really liked what i saw in the pre-season as well.. But wk in and wk out of nothing from the guy, i wanted to see more... He needed to step up, and he finally did.. Now, i hope he continues to do that, as hes our 1st rd pick and we need to hit on 1st rd picks almost every yr , in this competitive league...

    So, i'm gonna give him his MAD KUDOS for a phenomanel wk, and hope he keeps it up.. I'm certainly not thinking guys who loved the pick were right on about the pick, just as i would thik people who love the pick wouldent' think that themselves.. I mean, it was one monster wk...

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    • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
      He was the first RB in for Ahmad Bradshaw right outta the gates in Game 1.. Andre Brown wasen't the backup then, it was David WIlson.. He took that opp and fumbled it away.. Andre Brown took his limited opp and ran with it... hence why u don't throw away ur limited opp's, because someone else can be right there to jump on there limited opp..

      It took long enough for this game to come.. Lets hope he can continue these performances against teams like Atlanta, and Baltimore... Saints are terrible, and everyone runs wild on them...

      I mean, the Carolina Panthers RB's AVG'd almost 5 YPC and a 1td, and Deangelo WIlliams and John Stewart suck...

      Jamal Charles ran for almost 250yrd and had 65recieving against the saints..
      Doug Martin avg'd over 5YPC with a TD in a game against NO
      Ryan Matthews sucks and he AVG'd almost 7YPC with a TD against the saints
      McGhaee ran for well over 100 and a TD against the Saints
      Marcel Reece whos a pass reciever mroe then RB ran for over 100yards and a 5.4YPC avg against the saints...

      It goes on and on like this with RB's vs the saints.. Most of em don't return kicks of course, but just as RB's, the saints always give up monster games.. THey suck against the run... David Wilson had a fantastic game, but lets hope he keeps it up...
      I'm not arguing your point at all. I'm simply saying the kid didn't get any chances cause he didn't. They gave him kick offs and he did well with them. He fumbled 1 time, 1 time and got put in the doghouse most of the year. TC and KG kept saying he needs to learn how to pass protect, which I think was total bs cause Andre Brown had a big game and Bradshaw was playing well so the decided they could prolong this cause Bradshaw and Brown have more experience in the leagueand so the kid could mature more. But hey I really don't think Doug Martin would be playing either if the Giants drafted him cause that's the way TC is. Even Aikmen said that during the game.
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      • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
        He was the first RB in for Ahmad Bradshaw right outta the gates in Game 1.. Andre Brown wasen't the backup then, it was David WIlson.. He took that opp and fumbled it away.. Andre Brown took his limited opp and ran with it... hence why u don't throw away ur limited opp's, because someone else can be right there to jump on there limited opp..

        It took long enough for this game to come.. Lets hope he can continue these performances against teams like Atlanta, and Baltimore... Saints are terrible, and everyone runs wild on them...

        I mean, the Carolina Panthers RB's AVG'd almost 5 YPC and a 1td, and Deangelo WIlliams and John Stewart suck...

        Jamal Charles ran for almost 250yrd and had 65recieving against the saints..
        Doug Martin avg'd over 5YPC with a TD in a game against NO
        Ryan Matthews sucks and he AVG'd almost 7YPC with a TD against the saints
        McGhaee ran for well over 100 and a TD against the Saints
        Marcel Reece whos a pass reciever mroe then RB ran for over 100yards and a 5.4YPC avg against the saints...

        It goes on and on like this with RB's vs the saints.. Most of em don't return kicks of course, but just as RB's, the saints always give up monster games.. THey suck against the run... David Wilson had a fantastic game, but lets hope he keeps it up...
        Lol you are killing these guys with facts! Get it going lol!
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        • Saints maybe a terrible defense but it's the same defense that held Doug Martin to 85 yards so.....that to me is pretty much irrelevant.
          Last edited by Eliscruzzz; 12-10-2012, 10:29 PM.
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          • Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
            I'm not arguing your point at all. I'm simply saying the kid didn't get any chances cause he didn't. They gave him kick offs and he did well with them. He fumbled 1 time, 1 time and got put in the doghouse most of the year. TC and KG kept saying he needs to learn how to pass protect, which I think was total bs cause Andre Brown had a big game and Bradshaw was playing well so the decided they could prolong this cause Bradshaw and Brown have more experience in the leagueand so the kid could mature more. But hey I really don't think Doug Martin would be playing either if the Giants drafted him cause that's the way TC is. Even Aikmen said that during the game.
            Well that's because the coaching staff treats Bradshaw like he's a workhorse back at times as if the dude was Adrian Peterson. I like Bradshaw as much as the next guy but even I question the overuse of him when it's obvious to me he's better splitting carries with another RB for the long haul. That's why I was stunned when people thought Wilson was going to take the starting job in the beginning of the season and predicted a 1k+ season from him. Knowing how TC operates and how raw Wilson was coming out, it just didn't add up.

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            • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
              No, its alittle diffrent then "people are just excited about what he can bring", or else there woulden't be threads calling about people with critisim about a full yr of nothing outta David WIlson..

              I tell ya what, there wasen't anyone calling out David Wilson after he fumbled and couldent keep the backup job during the first week... I mean, it was only 1wk, for godsake.. It took wk in and wk out of nothing, before real frustration began from people who were critical of the selection... Shoot, even in the draft thread, which is still up by the way, u can see i didn't care for the pick, but still thought he was intriguing and could be a weapon in a DUO backfield... I really liked what i saw in the pre-season as well.. But wk in and wk out of nothing from the guy, i wanted to see more... He needed to step up, and he finally did.. Now, i hope he continues to do that, as hes our 1st rd pick and we need to hit on 1st rd picks almost every yr , in this competitive league...

              So, i'm gonna give him his MAD KUDOS for a phenomanel wk, and hope he keeps it up.. I'm certainly not thinking guys who loved the pick were right on about the pick, just as i would thik people who love the pick wouldent' think that themselves.. I mean, it was one monster wk...
              Wasn't even talking to you...but I will say this so it's warranted when the kid hasn't proved himself yet in year one to call him a bust but it isn't ok to get excited about a player that could be a new dimension to this offense?? I get where you're coming from and I don't know why you feel like your be called out by other people. No one said your name right?? Tmurda made a thread calling the kid a bust in YEAR 1, YEAR1. That is why the thread was made.
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              • Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                Well that's because the coaching staff treats Bradshaw like he's a workhorse back at times as if the dude was Adrian Peterson. I like Bradshaw as much as the next guy but even I question the overuse of him when it's obvious to me he's better splitting carries with another RB for the long haul. That's why I was stunned when people thought Wilson was going to take the starting job in the beginning of the season and predicted a 1k+ season from him. Knowing how TC operates and how raw Wilson was coming out, it just didn't add up.
                Exactly I knew from the beginning this kid wasn't going to start, like you said we could've drafted Adrien Petterson and TC would not start the guy. It just doesn't happen. It's a really sad thing that TC waits until he has no choice but to play rookie when this kid could have been producing all year. Then when the kid did get his chance. EVERYONE on the opposing defense knew he was getting the ball cause they knew he wasn't going to be used in passing situations. Pretty poor use of a talent if you ask me on the coaches part.
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                • Originally posted by Tmurda1984 View Post
                  Lol you are killing these guys with facts! Get it going lol!
                  that doesn't mean anything to me he can spit all the stats he want to. It's a totally different situation here then anywhere else.
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                  • Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
                    Wasn't even talking to you...but I will say this so it's warranted when the kid hasn't proved himself yet in year one to call him a bust but it isn't ok to get excited about a player that could be a new dimension to this offense?? I get where you're coming from and I don't know why you feel like your be called out by other people. No one said your name right?? Tmurda made a thread calling the kid a bust in YEAR 1, YEAR1. That is why the thread was made.
                    Like I said I made this thread...after waiting patiently for 13 weeks. And after watching Morris run for over 100 yards against us while David Wilson could not even get 10 yards. I also was highly agitated after seeing Bryce Brown explode for 2 straight weeks...and the Eagles have a makshift offensive line with Nick Foles at QB. Like I said I hope Wilson's solid play continues, but this "I told you so threads" are ridiculous after one week...I did not dog Wilson after opening night. But every week I have to hear fans dog Coughlin for under utilizing this guy, so by week 14 I got tired of it and made this thread. The combination of other rookies doing better than Wilson and hearing fans dog Coughlin got under my skin.
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                    • Originally posted by Eliscruzzz View Post
                      Saints maybe a terrible defense but it's the same defense that held Doug Martin to 85 yards so.....that to me is pretty much irrelevant.
                      Ya, he was held to a 5.3YPC avg and also added 35yrd recieving on only 3catches and he scored a TD...lol What a terrible game!!!lol

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                      • Originally posted by Tmurda1984 View Post
                        Like I said I made this thread...after waiting patiently for 13 weeks. And after watching Morris run for over 100 yards against us while David Wilson could not even get 10 yards. I also was highly agitated after seeing Bryce Brown explode for 2 straight weeks...and the Eagles have a makshift offensive line with Nick Foles at QB. Like I said I hope Wilson's solid play continues, but this "I told you so threads" are ridiculous after one week...I did not dog Wilson after opening night. But every week I have to hear fans dog Coughlin for under utilizing this guy, so by week 14 I got tired of it and made this thread. The combination of other rookies doing better than Wilson and hearing fans dog Coughlin got under my skin.
                        so you took 1 game and got sick of him not producing, when that one game was dominated by Bradshaw getting most of the carries?? Before that the kid never got enough carries to produce anything this season. On top of that everytime he was in the game the defense knew that he was going to carry the ball 100% of times that he was in their. Yeah that makes real sense. I could see if the kid got majority of the carries this year and he only had like 300 carrying but that's not the case. You called the kid a BUST, A BUST after the Redskins game. Like really c'mon man.
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                        • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                          Ya, he was held to a 5.3YPC avg and also added 35yrd recieving on only 3catches and he scored a TD...lol What a terrible game!!!lol
                          Your point is.....Wilson should've had a catch but stupid Barden got called for a penalty, Wilson had 13 carries for 100 yards. Plus his return yards. I don't think you even read what I said. You were diminishing what he did cause he did it against the saints defense so I just pointed it out...lol. Relax dude I'm not here to argue with you who's better. Just seems a little ridic. to me that Tmurda was calling the kid a bust after not being able to show what he could do fully and who knows what he could've done with the same amount of carries Doug Martin had. That's all.
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                          • Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                            No, its alittle diffrent then "people are just excited about what he can bring", or else there woulden't be threads calling about people with critisim about a full yr of nothing outta David WIlson..

                            I tell ya what, there wasen't anyone calling out David Wilson after he fumbled and couldent keep the backup job during the first week... I mean, it was only 1wk, for godsake.. It took wk in and wk out of nothing, before real frustration began from people who were critical of the selection... Shoot, even in the draft thread, which is still up by the way, u can see i didn't care for the pick, but still thought he was intriguing and could be a weapon in a DUO backfield... I really liked what i saw in the pre-season as well.. But wk in and wk out of nothing from the guy, i wanted to see more... He needed to step up, and he finally did.. Now, i hope he continues to do that, as hes our 1st rd pick and we need to hit on 1st rd picks almost every yr , in this competitive league...

                            So, i'm gonna give him his MAD KUDOS for a phenomanel wk, and hope he keeps it up.. I'm certainly not thinking guys who loved the pick were right on about the pick, just as i would thik people who love the pick wouldent' think that themselves.. I mean, it was one monster wk...
                            You are 1 stubborn guy.

                            You have been absolutely destroying this kid , almost wishing ill upon him since we drafted him because you didnt like the pick.

                            Example 1:

                            Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                            David Wilson su-cks.. hes so useless.. He dosent' cr-ap.. He isn't even all that of a KO returner either.. Ya, he had a little stint he was OK, but other then that, avg at best..

                            .
                            He has been, even prior to yesterday, the best kickoff returner in the NFL. It isnt even close. He is 300 yards more then the next closest guy.

                            You have been on this kids case HARD. Harder than any 1st round pick ever...
                            Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                            Is David Wilson gonna do anything on his carries this yr outside of that garbage time TD early in yr?
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                            Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                            He dosent get shots because he never does anything when they've given em his shots, except fumble, get smacked at the line, drop passes..etc I mean, Kregg Lumpkin jumped the guy for godsake! Thats pathetic! If ur good, eventually one of ur limited playing opp's, u do something with.. U can't continue to do nothing with 3-4 carries and drop balls here and there and expect to get more opp's, unless ur on a team with zero RB's..lol He su-cks...
                            If the forum archives were longer I could go further back and pull out even more rediculous posts about Wilson.

                            You LOVED the Jernigan pick and he did nothing his 1st year, I don't remember you calling him one single time...not even to this date through his 2nd year have you called him out like that. In fact, I remember your vehemently defending him when people did call him out for lack of contribution. You never complained when JPP didnt play much his rookie year as a #1 pick. There is 1 difference between those guys and Wilson, you liked those picks and said so at the time. It is apparent you would rather be right about it being a bad pick than you would actually routing for the kid now that he is in a Giants uniform.

                            The fact is JUST as I have said all along, TC develops rookie runningbacks slowly. He gives em a few shots early then come late november/early december he begins to introduce them into the offense more and more. He has done it with every RB drafted since he got here. So why is Wilson different? Because he is a 1st rounder? Well, then we should be mad at JPP too for not contributing much in his rookie year.

                            Saying a 21 yr old rookie who has barely played "su-cks" is a COMPLETE overaction. You were right in defending JJ last year when ppl called him out, you were right defending JPP his rookie year when ppl called him out. So why are you right this year in calling out Wilson? Wilson may go on to stink, or get injured or be a great 1, but trying to say a guy stinks at this early a point in his career, especially considering he is 1 of the youngest players in the NFL, is an absurd overraction.
                            Last edited by BlueSanta; 12-10-2012, 11:15 PM.
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                            • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                              You are 1 stubborn guy.

                              You have been absolutely destroying this kid , almost wishing ill upon him since we drafted him because you didnt like the pick.

                              Example 1:



                              He has been, even prior to yesterday, the best kickoff returner in the NFL. It isnt even close. He is 300 yards more then the next closest guy.

                              You have been on this kids case HARD. Harder than any 1st round pick ever...


                              :

                              If the forum archives were longer I could go further back and pull out even more rediculous posts about Wilson.

                              You LOVED the Jernigan pick and he did nothing his 1st year, I don't remember you calling him one single time...not even to this date through his 2nd year have you called him out like that. In fact, I remember your vehemently defending him when people did call him out for lack of contribution. You never complained when JPP didnt play much his rookie year as a #1 pick. There is 1 difference between those guys and Wilson, you liked those picks and said so at the time. It is apparent you would rather be right about it being a bad pick than you would actually routing for the kid now that he is in a Giants uniform.

                              The fact is JUST as I have said all along, TC develops rookie runningbacks slowly. He gives em a few shots early then come late november/early december he begins to introduce them into the offense more and more. He has done it with every RB drafted since he got here. So why is Wilson different? Because he is a 1st rounder? Well, then we should be mad at JPP too for not contributing much in his rookie year.

                              Saying a 21 yr old rookie who has barely played "su-cks" is a COMPLETE overaction. You were right in defending JJ last year when ppl called him out, you were right defending JPP his rookie year when ppl called him out. So why are you right this year in calling out Wilson? Wilson may go on to stink, or get injured or whatever, but trying to say a guy stinks at this early a point in his career, epecially considering he is 1 of the youngest players in the NFL, is an absurd overraction.
                              I would not say nycsportzfan is a troll but its like hey we are leading the NFC east and we look pretty good right now. Who cares who and how its a team sport.
                              Just remember Kevin Love makes more money then OBJ, and OBJ also dunks better.

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                              • Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post
                                You are 1 stubborn guy.

                                You have been absolutely destroying this kid , almost wishing ill upon him since we drafted him because you didnt like the pick.

                                Example 1:



                                He has been, even prior to yesterday, the best kickoff returner in the NFL. It isnt even close. He is 300 yards more then the next closest guy.

                                You have been on this kids case HARD. Harder than any 1st round pick ever...


                                :

                                If the forum archives were longer I could go further back and pull out even more rediculous posts about Wilson.

                                You LOVED the Jernigan pick and he did nothing his 1st year, I don't remember you calling him one single time...not even to this date through his 2nd year have you called him out like that. In fact, I remember your vehemently defending him when people did call him out for lack of contribution. You never complained when JPP didnt play much his rookie year as a #1 pick. There is 1 difference between those guys and Wilson, you liked those picks and said so at the time. It is apparent you would rather be right about it being a bad pick than you would actually routing for the kid now that he is in a Giants uniform.

                                The fact is JUST as I have said all along, TC develops rookie runningbacks slowly. He gives em a few shots early then come late november/early december he begins to introduce them into the offense more and more. He has done it with every RB drafted since he got here. So why is Wilson different? Because he is a 1st rounder? Well, then we should be mad at JPP too for not contributing much in his rookie year.

                                Saying a 21 yr old rookie who has barely played "su-cks" is a COMPLETE overaction. You were right in defending JJ last year when ppl called him out, you were right defending JPP his rookie year when ppl called him out. So why are you right this year in calling out Wilson? Wilson may go on to stink, or get injured or whatever, but trying to say a guy stinks at this early a point in his career, epecially considering he is 1 of the youngest players in the NFL, is an absurd overraction.
                                oh my God I never realized he hated the pick that much no wonder why he basically jumped down my throat. He can't stand the fact that he actually did something the last game. Well said my friend.....+1111111111111111
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