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    It sure looked to me that the Falcons were baiting Nicks and Cruz into thinking that a specific route was open only for them to close in on it and damn near pick Eli off every time with a highly contested throw.

    Even a wide open receiver had a guy close in on him within a second.


    Asante Samuel is the devil...... I hate the guy. You think it's a coincidence their defense knew everything we were doing aside from the fact that killdrive is so predictable? Asante spilled his guts and the Falcons rode us like a rented mule.

    There wasn't a single throw yesterday that I felt good about... that's how contested every single throw was.


    Our offense has become tired and needs some change.


    Maybe we need more draw plays .... a 4th draw in a row would of done the trick!
    Last edited by NYG4lifeNYK; 12-17-2012, 04:56 PM.
    "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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    The pick on the Nicks throw was a good pass - on target and in stride. I totally agree with you though that they gave Nicks what he needed to see to "option" into the route he ran and the corners knew they had the safety help for that route and had the freedom to gamble and play crazy aggressive. The Falcons did their homework and took us to school - but they also have the playmakers to do so. Other than Reed I don't know enough about the Ravens ability to do the same.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
      It sure looked to me that the Falcons were baiting Nicks and Cruz into thinking that a specific route was open only for them to close in on it and damn near pick Eli off every time with a highly contested throw.

      Even a wide open receiver had a guy close in on him within a second.


      Asante Samuel is the devil...... I hate the guy. You think it's a coincidence their defense knew everything we were doing aside from the fact that killdrive is so predictable? Asante spilled his guts and the Falcons rode us like a rented mule.
      There wasn't a single throw yesterday that I felt good about... that's how contested every single throw was.


      Our offense has become tired and needs some change.


      Maybe we need more draw plays .... a 4th draw in a row would of done the trick!

      I HATE HIS FILTHY SMIRK! IT MAKES ME WANNA PUKE!!

      Stand with Cruz!
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      • #4
        Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
        It sure looked to me that the Falcons were baiting Nicks and Cruz into thinking that a specific route was open only for them to close in on it and damn near pick Eli off every time with a highly contested throw.

        Even a wide open receiver had a guy close in on him within a second.


        Asante Samuel is the devil...... I hate the guy. You think it's a coincidence their defense knew everything we were doing aside from the fact that killdrive is so predictable? Asante spilled his guts and the Falcons rode us like a rented mule.

        There wasn't a single throw yesterday that I felt good about... that's how contested every single throw was.


        Our offense has become tired and needs some change.


        Maybe we need more draw plays .... a 4th draw in a row would of done the trick!
        CBs know Eli is predictable, that's why we can't win in division games.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
          CBs know Eli is predictable, that's why we can't win in division games.
          No, our offense is predictable(Hi Gilbride) and more importantly our red zone(Hi Gilbride) offense which is absolutely crippling when you stall countless times in the red zone.(Hi Gilbride)
          "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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          • #6
            Are you guys saying he knows our playbook? And I agree the 2nd int was a good pass and would have hit nicks in stride. The safety just made a great play.
            Last edited by DarkSaint; 12-17-2012, 07:07 PM.

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            • #7
              They were jumping every single route yesterday like they were the receiver... I couldn't believe it. It was like Asante cloned himsef and was all over the field.
              "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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              • #8
                We should just try to acquire Asante Samuel for ourselves. One less kryptonite out there for us.

                But yeah, that's just the symptom of a larger issue, that being Killdrive...

                I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                • #9
                  ive been making this point repeatedly. i made a few threads about it earlier.

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                  • #10
                    it seems defenses understand our S.A.O (site adjustment offense for further reference). They seem to know they can bait eli/wr into certain routes. and theyre capitalizing on it by doubling the routes they force eli/wr into thinking is open. the 2nd int is a perfect example imo. Fokou is showing one coverage presnap. the DB on nicks shows him the coverage that nicks runs an in cut type route. Fokou, I guess knowing Nicks would be forced into that route, dropped underneath him perfectly for the int. and its not just exclusive to yesterday. for a while now, ive seen teams bracket Cruz, and play him with certain techniques that bait him into routes that will have double coverage or jump the route...we need to mix things up a little with this SOA. When teams can just rush 4 and generate pressure, we've had zero success...i dunno but we need a 3rd WR whose as dangerous as nicks n cruz (MM was arguable more dangerous bc he possessed more speed and quickness than the other two) that force defenses into having to defend us differently than they are able to now

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                    • #11
                      the question could become, once we figure that Defenses uderstand they can force us into certain routes by their technique/coverage, are we gonna ask the wrs to deduce yet another thing midplay and see if the coverage is a trick/attempt to bait eli and himself? cuz i dunno how else the offense can evolve if wrs arent doing that...otherwise itd seem theres too much guess work

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                      • #12
                        If fans know what's coming, opposing DCs and players know what's coming. It's pathetic, really.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                          ive been making this point repeatedly. i made a few threads about it earlier.
                          I have also put this point out there a few times. Shannahan dialed it in last year, once you figure out these option routes you can manipulate this passing attack into trap after trap.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                            it seems defenses understand our S.A.O (site adjustment offense for further reference). They seem to know they can bait eli/wr into certain routes. and theyre capitalizing on it by doubling the routes they force eli/wr into thinking is open. the 2nd int is a perfect example imo. Fokou is showing one coverage presnap. the DB on nicks shows him the coverage that nicks runs an in cut type route. Fokou, I guess knowing Nicks would be forced into that route, dropped underneath him perfectly for the int. and its not just exclusive to yesterday. for a while now, ive seen teams bracket Cruz, and play him with certain techniques that bait him into routes that will have double coverage or jump the route...we need to mix things up a little with this SOA. When teams can just rush 4 and generate pressure, we've had zero success...i dunno but we need a 3rd WR whose as dangerous as nicks n cruz (MM was arguable more dangerous bc he possessed more speed and quickness than the other two) that force defenses into having to defend us differently than they are able to now
                            Makes sense. Eli makes the throw from what is the good read. The defense knows whats happening, picks it off, and people think our QB is sloppy and sucks.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TextureDj View Post
                              I have also put this point out there a few times. Shannahan dialed it in last year, once you figure out these option routes you can manipulate this passing attack into trap after trap.
                              this is an excellent point. Then end zone int last year when it appeared that mm pulled up on his route, the db was in position for at least 5 seconds all alone waiting for the ball to come to him. Looked like somebody had passed them the giants playbook.

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