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  • Originally posted by GentleGiant View Post
    Well he's a bust of a rookie.

    As for osi? What are we gonna replace him with? Tuck?
    Yeah, cause 3rd rd draft picks should immediately play like All Pros

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    • Originally posted by GentleGiant View Post
      Well he's a bust of a rookie.

      As for osi? What are we gonna replace him with? Tuck?
      You can't call a rookie a bust. Remember how many people were saying the same about Prince last year?

      As for Osi there are quite a few good pass rushing defensive ends that will fall to the late first round of the draft this year, plus you have a couple of guys that still have a shot to show what they can do.

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      • Rolle should take a pay cut, or be let go. He's a liability in pass coverage in an already weak defensive backfield. Kenny Phillips can be had cheaper, and Stevie Brown/Will Hill are on the come up.

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        • Originally posted by drewz View Post
          Rolle should take a pay cut, or be let go. He's a liability in pass coverage in an already weak defensive backfield. Kenny Phillips can be had cheaper, and Stevie Brown/Will Hill are on the come up.
          I don't know about KP coming cheap... Talent-wise he's one of the better safeties in the league. He will certainly attract interest on the open market.

          Rolle's contract is the way it is because it's the final year of his backloaded, resructured FA contract. Every big time FA contract is like this.
          Last edited by Flip Empty; 12-22-2012, 10:53 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
            I don't know about KP coming cheap... Talent-wise he's one of the better safeties in the league. He will certainly attract interest on the open market.
            He will be unquestionably cheaper than Rolle is. KP being injured for a lot of this season will reduce the contract size he gets too

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            • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
              He will be unquestionably cheaper than Rolle is. KP being injured for a lot of this season will reduce the contract size he gets too
              ..........injured for alot of his career as well Slip. I agree totally though, he is very good when healthy and should be a much better value for us than Rolle.
              No one remembers who came in second.

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              • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                He will be unquestionably cheaper than Rolle is. KP being injured for a lot of this season will reduce the contract size he gets too
                Well that's promising. I'd rather not see him leave.

                Cruz/Phillips, then Nicks, then JPP. This team has a lot of cap juggling to do over these next few years.

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                • Bass was the worst pick up Rolle might be a cut but doubt it. Webster will be forced to take a pay cut or be cut. Yoi cant hide his horrible play this year. I have a feeling Tuck will retire he seems emotionally done. His shoulder stays hurting him walk away on top it happens to some good players. Hes a NYG for life he knows it we got Tracy and Ojomo waiting in thr wing who should have played.

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                  • Man, is Kenny Phillips the Giants' very own Bob Sanders? It seemed like that guy only got paid to undergo rehab.

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                    • Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                      Man, is Kenny Phillips the Giants' very own Bob Sanders? It seemed like that guy only got paid to undergo rehab.
                      Give that title to Terrell Thomas. Why did Reese even waste money giving this guy a contract. He was injured throughout USC and as a Giant. This guy is clearly hobbled.

                      At least Phillips does play...Phillips will be ok...he might not have a long career, but most football players do not. Phillips is also playing on a rookie contract its Thomas who is getting paid to undergo rehab and physical therapy. I dont understand how you draft a guy who was clearly injured all the time in college as well. Bout as dumb as the Marvin Austin pick.
                      " In Reese to Sign a Bust"

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                      • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                        Yeah, cause 3rd rd draft picks should immediately play like All Pros
                        You haven't been watching the rookies this year have you?

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                        • Originally posted by drewz View Post
                          Rolle should take a pay cut, or be let go. He's a liability in pass coverage in an already weak defensive backfield. Kenny Phillips can be had cheaper, and Stevie Brown/Will Hill are on the come up.
                          Reese needs to really rethink keeping a lot of these guys and just makeing our cap worse for the following years. he needs to take some cap hits and play younger more hungry and healthier guys.

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                          • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                            2013 cap hits

                            Eli - 20,800,000

                            webster - 9,900,000

                            Rolle- 9,250,000

                            Diehl- 7,450,000

                            tuck - 5,600,000

                            canty- 8,200,000

                            baas- 6,700,000

                            Boley- 5,900,000

                            Reese will restructure some, but he really needs to trim the fat here ,look at the production and worth.

                            seems like we always are tight in cap space, how about making room so we can have a future.

                            we have a few FA's we need to pay also
                            Given that information I would cut webster Dhiel and boley and give the money we save to ELI

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                            • Originally posted by giants8493 View Post
                              Given that information I would cut webster Dhiel and boley and give the money we save to ELI
                              huh??? you would give the extra cap space to Eli??? in case you didnt realize he needs a great cast around him and solid defense. we would take cap hits for cutting some and still need to replace them.

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                              • could not agree more with playing guys that have something to prove. Honest question now does anyone think if given a chance Tracy or Ojomo dont play their hearts out and at least play as well as Tuck did for 6 times the money. Our entire right side of our oline lives off of past success. We need to get younger, faster. Stop giving money to player we dont need and ones that we can replace for significantly less money. For anyone that says Tracy has been given a chance this year should also note that they moved him back to DE this year but only time he got some playing time they had him at lb.

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