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  • #31
    I don't know who stays, who restructures, who is cut.... I just hope we can for once stay reasonably healthy at key positions throughout a season.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
      Constant restructuring is the reason many of those contracts are the way they are. Though they may not deserve it, those players are entitled to that money. Not one should have to take a pay cut.
      thats all well and good , so let them get their guaranteed portion and they already got their signing bonus's and find more money elsewhere. I agree that we mortgaged our future on this one and further restructuring just delays things another year and it then all catches up with you. we need serious upgrades like LB's and oline.

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      • #33
        $20mm/yr is the going rate for a top tier QB, and Eli absolutely is that. I can't think of a player who is more valuable to his team than Eli is to the Giants, other than guys like Rodgers, Brees, Brady, and the other Manning who make similar amounts. Romo is up for a new deal this year, and I would be shocked if he doesn't land something in that range.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by freeoscar View Post
          $20mm/yr is the going rate for a top tier QB, and Eli absolutely is that. I can't think of a player who is more valuable to his team than Eli is to the Giants, other than guys like Rodgers, Brees, Brady, and the other Manning who make similar amounts. Romo is up for a new deal this year, and I would be shocked if he doesn't land something in that range.
          IMO no one is worth that much cap space because you then have to surround them with talent.

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          • #35
            IMO only Eli and Rolle are worth keeping at that money. Most of those other guys should be let go and I dont say that under the pretense they are worse than what we can get or what we have in back up but they are not worth that much money. I know Boley has been our best LB but that doesnt really say anything on this team

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Harooni View Post
              thats all well and good , so let them get their guaranteed portion and they already got their signing bonus's and find more money elsewhere. I agree that we mortgaged our future on this one and further restructuring just delays things another year and it then all catches up with you. we need serious upgrades like LB's and oline.
              Cutting Baas would result in a $9 million hit next season. It's a similar story for many players. Cutting players is easier said than done.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                Cutting Baas would result in a $9 million hit next season. It's a similar story for many players. Cutting players is easier said than done.
                Damn yea it would figure as much that we have a lot of guaranteed money and bonuses in these guys, makes it near impossible to cut them even if thats what should be done. Poor deal making on Reese's part giving money like this to guys that dont deserve it. We cut them and we can barely get enough players with the cap hits

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                  Boley as well.
                  I've been dissapointed with boley this season. I don't know, I don't think his play has been worth that type of money just my opinion though.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                    IMO no one is worth that much cap space because you then have to surround them with talent.
                    well, another one who is a $20mm hit next year is Roethlisberger. Now, besides the cap hit, what else do Roethlisberger, Eli, Payton, Brees, Brady, and Rodgers have in common? Clearly, they are worth the hit.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                      2013 cap hits

                      Eli - 20,800,000

                      webster - 9,900,000

                      Rolle- 9,250,000

                      Diehl- 7,450,000

                      tuck - 5,600,000

                      canty- 8,200,000

                      baas- 6,700,000

                      Boley- 5,900,000

                      Reese will restructure some, but he really needs to trim the fat here ,look at the production and worth.

                      seems like we always are tight in cap space, how about making room so we can have a future.

                      we have a few FA's we need to pay also
                      Restructure Eli again - He just gets his money as a bonus instead of a monthly pay out
                      Cut Webster if possible
                      Restrucure Rolle - He just gets his money as a bonus
                      Cut Diehl - and hope the Redskins sign him to protect RGIII
                      Cut Tuck - the Redskins will definitely sign him as RGIII's masseur, nake yoga instructor, and happy endings provider
                      Restructure Canty - He just gets his money as a bonus
                      Cut Baas - (Will this cost too much?)
                      Keep Boley - Heart and soul of the defense

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by VBGiantsFan View Post
                        Restructure Eli again - He just gets his money as a bonus instead of a monthly pay out
                        Cut Webster if possible
                        Restrucure Rolle - He just gets his money as a bonus
                        Cut Diehl - and hope the Redskins sign him to protect RGIII
                        Cut Tuck - the Redskins will definitely sign him as RGIII's masseur, nake yoga instructor, and happy endings provider
                        Restructure Canty - He just gets his money as a bonus
                        Cut Baas - (Will this cost too much?)
                        Keep Boley - Heart and soul of the defense
                        Yeah but the amount will be split out even over the remaining years of the deal. It's not like the hit just disappears.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          I wonder how play/pay might change if players' actual performance was factored in?
                          It would definitely give us more cap space, but even still some of those players should just be let go period.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by VBGiantsFan View Post
                            Restructure Eli again - He just gets his money as a bonus instead of a monthly pay out
                            Cut Webster if possible
                            Restrucure Rolle - He just gets his money as a bonus
                            Cut Diehl - and hope the Redskins sign him to protect RGIII
                            Cut Tuck - the Redskins will definitely sign him as RGIII's masseur, nake yoga instructor, and happy endings provider
                            Restructure Canty - He just gets his money as a bonus
                            Cut Baas - (Will this cost too much?)
                            Keep Boley - Heart and soul of the defense

                            lol nice post

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by ShakeandBake View Post
                              It would definitely give us more cap space, but even still some of those players should just be let go period.
                              sometimes you got to take the hit and let them go and then the next season you are in a great cap situation. this should have been done this last offseason your fresh off a sb win, tkae the hits and still feild a decent team and now 2013-2015 your sitting pretty with no big inflated contracts.

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                              • #45
                                Every guy Harooni mentioned is expendable except Eli.......with the possible exception of Rolle, because of his versatility and his leadership skills.

                                I like Canty, but he is overpaid.

                                Tuck should retire, because physically and emotionally, he's just not there anymore. Dude used to be unblockable without a double team....now he can't get there on a single.

                                We might need to bite the bullet and keep overpaying Baas, because he's not the worst lineman.

                                Diehl is finished.....which I don't like saying, because I like Diehl alot. But he'll need to take a cut or be cut.....he shouldn't be starting.

                                Webster could be like Baas....he's had an off season, but given how badly our secondary gets injured, I'd be very hesitant to get rid of one of the few guys who plays every week. Might need to keep overpaying him, too.
                                "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                                "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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