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  • #61
    Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
    Id think Rolle could be a casualty, KP is younger & wont make nearly as much as Rolles big cap hit....
    Yeah, but Rolle is made out of iron and never hurt.(except for the occasional cameraman) KP? Not so much....

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Giant stuck in Texas View Post
      Yeah, but Rolle is made out of iron and never hurt.(except for the occasional cameraman) KP? Not so much....
      True, but unless he takes a paycut, I cant possibly see paying him 9mil for what he brings to the table,same with webster/canty/etc...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by BlueJayC View Post
        Diehl gone......Webster restructure......beyond that I have no idea.
        ^^ This ^^

        And I have no doubt Eli would restructure for the sake of he franchise if need be.

        Webster and Baas might be strong armed
        "Release the Kraken!"

        - Dan Dierdorf, Giants vs Dolphins, 10/30/2011

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        • #64
          I kept telling people that we will be in a mess in 2013. There is going to be alot of changes because of Reese's inability to manage our cap. Reese will continue to restructure terrible contracts (that he shouldnt have given out in the first place) and causing a problem down the road. Restructing only puts a band-aid on a big wound. Reese does not have a clue how to manage this cap...and this is my number #1 gripe against him. But alot of people fail to realize this and flame me.
          " In Reese to Sign a Bust"

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          • #65
            Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
            True, but unless he takes a paycut, I cant possibly see paying him 9mil for what he brings to the table,same with webster/canty/etc...
            I respectively have to disagree on Rolle. He's an above average safety with a big mouth. The Giants need him on D.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Harooni View Post
              2013 cap hits

              Eli - 20,800,000

              webster - 9,900,000

              Rolle- 9,250,000

              Diehl- 7,450,000

              tuck - 5,600,000

              canty- 8,200,000

              baas- 6,700,000

              Boley- 5,900,000

              Reese will restructure some, but he really needs to trim the fat here ,look at the production and worth.

              seems like we always are tight in cap space, how about making room so we can have a future.

              we have a few FA's we need to pay also
              Diehl's may not be that high. He has escalators in his contract for playing LT. If he's not at LT he's not making as much.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
                True, but unless he takes a paycut, I cant possibly see paying him 9mil for what he brings to the table,same with webster/canty/etc...
                The reason why Rolle's cap hit is so high is that he's already restructured his contract (after '10 I believe).

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                • #68
                  Its actually fairly interesting around the league, which of the very highly paid QBs have good defenses?

                  If you exclude Peyton, because he just signed with a team this season, you have what, Brees with the worst defense, brady with a horrible defense, Rogers defense has been bad two years in a row, who else? Even the steelers defense is starting to fall apart

                  And if you look at the great defenses, all of them have either young QBs on rookie deals, or very average QBs.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    Its actually fairly interesting around the league, which of the very highly paid QBs have good defenses?

                    If you exclude Peyton, because he just signed with a team this season, you have what, Brees with the worst defense, brady with a horrible defense, Rogers defense has been bad two years in a row, who else? Even the steelers defense is starting to fall apart

                    And if you look at the great defenses, all of them have either young QBs on rookie deals, or very average QBs.
                    Yup. It's a trade off you have to make, it seems.

                    However, we're paying a lot of our defense like it's a top defense, too, lol.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                      Its actually fairly interesting around the league, which of the very highly paid QBs have good defenses?

                      If you exclude Peyton, because he just signed with a team this season, you have what, Brees with the worst defense, brady with a horrible defense, Rogers defense has been bad two years in a row, who else? Even the steelers defense is starting to fall apart

                      And if you look at the great defenses, all of them have either young QBs on rookie deals, or very average QBs.
                      Brady's defense is not too bad...The Patriots made a huge youth movement to revamp their defense after 2007 because the 2007 defense and previous defenses was very good for the Patriots and Tom Brady has been elite since at least 2005. The Patriots have a solid defense right now after having another cap room to sign Aqib Talib. The Patriots GM knows when to start the youth movement, manage their cap to sign high priced free agents, and even took a chance on free agent acquisitions like Randy Moss and Chad Ochocinco (which did not work out, but they were in dire need of a receiver).
                      " In Reese to Sign a Bust"

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                      • #71
                        Man !!! that's brutal. Webster,Diehl , Bass and Boley bye bye. I would like to see the Giants moving up in the draft in order to get instant impact guys at OL LB and DB. or take a look in free agency for a solid player who can help with experience and leadership.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                          2013 cap hits
                          Eli - 20,800,000
                          webster - 9,900,000
                          Rolle- 9,250,000
                          Diehl- 7,450,000
                          tuck - 5,600,000
                          canty- 8,200,000
                          baas- 6,700,000
                          Boley- 5,900,000
                          There isn't one player on here worth the money they are about to get paid... including Eli. Nothing against Eli, but 20,800,000 is more than I would pay him!
                          My goal had been to win a championship, work toward the Hall of Fame, have my jersey retired by the team and I`d go in as a lifelong New York Giant, but I`m now resigned to the fact that this won`t happen. -- Michael Strahan, just when you think you're down...

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Tmurda1984 View Post
                            Brady's defense is not too bad...The Patriots made a huge youth movement to revamp their defense after 2007 because the 2007 defense and previous defenses was very good for the Patriots and Tom Brady has been elite since at least 2005. The Patriots have a solid defense right now after having another cap room to sign Aqib Talib. The Patriots GM knows when to start the youth movement, manage their cap to sign high priced free agents, and even took a chance on free agent acquisitions like Randy Moss and Chad Ochocinco (which did not work out, but they were in dire need of a receiver).
                            What high priced FAs have the patriots brought in? Moss and Ocho when they got them were getting scraps. And they have the 27th ranked defense by yards.

                            As for Talib, hes making 2 mil this season and is a FA next season.

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                            • #74
                              Eli - 20,800,000
                              Not going anywhere, for obvious reasons
                              webster - 9,900,000
                              Should take a pay cut or get cut, although Hosley still needs to prove himself before I'd be comfortable even releasing Webby...
                              Rolle- 9,250,000
                              Should take a pay cut, and with the emergence of Stevie and Hill, his job is in even more danger.
                              Diehl- 7,450,000
                              I would have dropped this guy in a heartbeat. Then Locklear went down for the season...
                              tuck - 5,600,000
                              Can we get him to take a pay cut? Or at least strip him of his captain title and give it to Blackburn or something...
                              canty- 8,200,000
                              A little high, but we DO need him. If he's willing to restructure great, but I don't really want to see him gone...
                              baas- 6,700,000
                              I'd just flat out cut the guy. Cordle is most likely just as good, and even if Baas would be slightly better, Cordle has a much smaller cap hit.
                              Boley- 5,900,000
                              This one largely depends on whether we'd use Kiwi more on the line (which would result in Tuck getting restructured), or as a LB. Also, the status of Jacquian Williams. If both Kiwi and Williams are starting-level linebackers in 2013, we could probably get away with cutting this guy (if he's not owed too much guaranteed anyway)

                              Who are the 2013 FA's? Obviously there's Osi who we'd most likely just let walk unless he starts getting 5 sacks a game from here on out, as well as guys like Bennett and Rivers that we'd probably want to re-sign, but who else?

                              I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                                Rolle- 9,250,000
                                Should take a pay cut, and with the emergence of Stevie and Hill, his job is in even more danger.
                                Rolle already restructured once which is why he's scheduled to make that much. You can't knock him for that.

                                Besides, Rolle and Blackburn are the TRUE captains of this defense, which increases their value IMO.

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