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  • Before you guys want to cut players look at this:

    QB 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Signing Bonus Guaranteed Bonus Max
    Eli Manning 9 600 000 20 850 000 20 400 000 19 750 000 Unrestricted 13 000 000 35 000 000 2 600 000
    David Carr 990 000 Unrestricted or
    15 850 000
    RB
    Ahmad Bradshaw 4 500 000 5 250 000 5 500 000 Unrestricted 5 000 000 9 000 000 2 500 000
    David Wilson 1 215 364 1 519 205 1 823 046 2 126 364 Unrestricted 3 301 456 2 476 092
    Andre Brown 348 750 Restricted
    Da'Rel Scott 188 350 568 975 658 975 Unrestricted 55 900 27 950
    Kregg Lumpkin 115 313 Unrestricted
    Ryan Torain 115 313 Unrestricted
    FB
    Henry Hynoski 470 000 560 000 Restricted 15 000 5000
    WR
    Hakeem Nicks 1 780 000 1 955 000 Unrestricted 2 500 000 500 000
    Victor Cruz 490 000 Restricted
    Rueben Randle 598 533 748 166 872 799 1 022 432 Unrestricted 834 132 625 599
    Jerrel Jernigan 608 750 698 750 788 750 Unrestricted 575 000 287 500
    Domenik Hixon 615 000 Unrestricted
    Ramses Barden 1 490 789 Unrestricted
    Dan Depalma
    TE
    Martellus Bennett 2 500 000 Unrestricted
    Bear Pascoe 615 000 Restricted
    Adrien Robinson 486 413 576 413 666 413 756 413 Unrestricted 385 652 289 239
    Travis Beckum 768 250 Unrestricted
    Larry Donnell
    T
    William Beatty 845 000 Unrestricted
    Sean Locklear 890 000 Unrestricted
    David Diehl 4 550 000 7 450 000 Unrestricted 3 000 000 3 000 000
    James Brewer 574 616 664 616 754 616 Unrestricted 438 464 219 232
    Brandon Mosley 75 146 555 146 645 146 735 146 Unrestricted 300 584 225 438
    Selvish Capers 390 000 Restricted
    Matt McCants
    G
    Chris Snee 7 783 333 8 783 333 6 700 000 Unrestricted 13 500 000 17 000 000 2 250 000
    Kevin Boothe 1 500 000 Unrestricted
    Stephen Goodin
    C
    David Baas 3 375 000 6 725 000 7 225 000 7 475 000 Unrestricted 8 500 000 11 500 000 6 675 000
    Jim Cordle 465 000 Unrestricted
    DE
    Jason Pierre-Paul 2 275 000 2 625 000 2 961 000 Unrestricted 900 000 11 629 807 300 000
    Justin Tuck 4 850 000 5 650 000 Unrestricted 9 000 000 1 500 000
    Osi Umenyiora 6 000 000 Unrestricted
    Adewale Ojomo 390 000 480 000 570 000 Restricted
    Adrian Tracy 540 000 Restricted
    Justin Trattou 465 000 Restricted
    Matt Broha
    DT
    Chris Canty 7 950 000 8 200 000 6 750 000 Unrestricted 8 500 000 16 000 000 1 700 000
    Linval Joseph 922 000 957 000 Unrestricted 1 528 000 382 000
    Marvin Austin 856 627 978 254 1 149 881 Unrestricted 1 240 000 620 000
    Rocky Bernard 925 000 Unrestricted
    Markus Kuhn 255 224 491 474 581 474 671 474 Unrestricted 45 896 34 422
    Shaun Rogers 605 000 Unrestricted
    Martin Parker 465 000 555 000 645 000 Unrestricted
    OLB
    Michael Boley 5 650 000 5 900 000 Unrestricted 7 000 000 11 000 000 1 400 000
    Mathias Kiwanuka 4 125 000 5 125 000 6 550 000 6 950 000 Unrestricted 8 500 000 10 950 000 6 375 000
    Keith Rivers 2 405 000 Unrestricted
    Jacquian Williams 484 750 574 750 664 750 Unrestricted 79 000 39 500
    MLB
    Chase Blackburn 540 000 Unrestricted
    Mark Herzlich 470 000 560 000 Unrestricted 15 000 5 000
    Spencer Paysinger 465 000 555 000 Unrestricted
    CB
    Prince Amukamara 1 846 859 2 218 718 1 895 200 Unrestricted 4 400 000 7 484 000 2 200 000
    Corey Webster 9 475 000 9 975 000 Unrestricted 5 250 000 20 000 000 875 000
    Jayron Hosley 518 750 616 250 706 250 796 250 Unrestricted 515 000 386 250
    Terrell Thomas 312 500 3 000 000 or UFA 6 050 000 7 000 000 Unrestricted 1 000 000 11 000 000 6 750 000
    Justin Tryon 700 000 Unrestricted
    Bruce Johnson 540 000 Restricted
    Brian Witherspoon 540 000 Unrestricted
    Laron Scott
    S
    Kenny Phillips 2 961 250 Unrestricted 2 530 000
    Antrel Rolle 9 000 000 9 250 000 9 250 000 Unrestricted 5 000 000 15 000 000 4 000 000
    Stevie Brown 540 000 Restricted
    Will Hill 292 500 480 000 570 000 Restricted
    Tyler Sash 547 694 637 694 727 694 Unrestricted 330 776 165 388
    K/P/LS
    Lawrence Tynes 1 550 000 Unrestricted
    Steve Weatherford 1 425 000 2 475 000 2 675 000 2 825 000 2 975 000 Unrestricted 3 250 000 2 600 000
    Zak DeOssie 1 105 667 1 049 000 1 150 000 1 200 000 Unrestricted 800 000 600 000
    CAP 120 600 000 ???
    Total on team 118 955 310 116 257 744
    David Diehl 7 450 000 4 450 000
    Chris Canty 8 200 000 6 500 000
    Corey Webster 9 975 000 9 100 000
    96 207 744
    Antrel Rolle 9 250 000 5 250 000 90 957 744
    Michael Boley 5 900 000 4 500 000 91 707 744
    Justin Tuck 5 650 000 4 150 000 92 057 744
    82 307 744
    Chris Snee 8 783 333 6 533 333 89 674 411
    75 774 411

  • #2
    I'm interested in the cap hit on guys like Diehl, Boley, Tuck, Webster, etc
    My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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    • #3
      What is the immediate cap hit for cutting early for each player still signed through 2013 and onwards?

      I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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      • #4
        Total on team 118 955 310 116 257 744
        David Diehl 7 450 000 4 450 000
        Chris Canty 8 200 000 6 500 000
        Corey Webster 9 975 000 9 100 000
        96 207 744
        Antrel Rolle 9 250 000 5 250 000 90 957 744
        Michael Boley 5 900 000 4 500 000 91 707 744
        Justin Tuck 5 650 000 4 150 000 92 057 744
        82 307 744
        Chris Snee 8 783 333 6 533 333 89 674 411
        75 774 411

        All accept Rolle are not worth it.
        Just remember Kevin Love makes more money then OBJ, and OBJ also dunks better.

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        • #5
          Well if it hurts to cut guys, then maybe just let them act as backups instead of starters.

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          • #6
            Part of why I say we should sack the 2013 season for rebuilding... some of these guys are so overpaid its ridiculous. It's not like we're going to bust up the "no team has ever played in their home stadium for a super bowl" thing. Just get some of the overpaid cruft out of here NOW so we can build a new future.

            I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by appodictic View Post
              Total on team 118 955 310 116 257 744
              David Diehl 7 450 000 4 450 000
              Chris Canty 8 200 000 6 500 000
              Corey Webster 9 975 000 9 100 000
              96 207 744
              Antrel Rolle 9 250 000 5 250 000 90 957 744
              Michael Boley 5 900 000 4 500 000 91 707 744
              Justin Tuck 5 650 000 4 150 000 92 057 744
              82 307 744
              Chris Snee 8 783 333 6 533 333 89 674 411
              75 774 411

              All accept Rolle are not worth it.
              They're all gonna have to re-do their deals then, I guess
              My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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              • #8
                as you can see:

                Diehl, Canty, Webster are getting a lot of money $$$ and we can afford to get a lot of money back in releasing them.. I would do it! I would only keep Canty or Webster for a huge huge pay cut in the 3-4M less per year (won't happen)

                Rolle is a so so situation ??? I would cut him next off season

                Snee... well he will take a small pay cut I guess...will drop 1-2M to his annual salary

                Boley and Tuck are a so so situation ... you can save money yes... but do you have the guys in place to replace them???

                and look at Manning salary ...a 11M rise on the cap hit...if you rework the deal it will only hurt us even more next year

                so my 2 cents:

                cut Diehl
                cut Canty
                cut Webster
                keep Rolle
                keep Snee with small pay cut
                keep Boley and Tuck and let them retire next season or don't re-sign them next year
                don't touch Manning contract
                let Osi go
                let Terrell Thomas go
                let Rivers go

                re-sign Beatty 4-5M a year (5 years deal)
                re-sign Unicorn 3 years 3.5M per year
                re-sign Phillips 3 years 4M per year
                re-sign Blackburn 3 years 2.5M per year
                re-sign Boothe 2 years 2,5M per year
                re-sign Locklear 1 year 1.5M
                sign Cruz 4 years 6.5M per year
                draft T/DE/DT/CB round 1
                draft T/DE/DT/CB round 2
                draft T/DE/DT/CB round 3
                sign a starting LB free agent
                sign the remaining (not drafted in the first 3 rounds) T/DE/DT/CB starter in free agency

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                • #9
                  Giantamy, I like what you've got here. Couple of things IMO. I'd be careful about Phillips. Love him, but risky. too many health issues. 3 years is ok if you watch the cap hit if they have to cut bait. I'd also keep Canty. remember, he's the only one Coughlin singled out for playing worth a damn in Baltimore. Also missed 6-7 games and needed time to round into shape. Gets push up the middle. I'd keep him. Unicorn at 3.5 per is a 1,000,000 raise from this season. Played hurt, played well for the most part. I guess I'd resign rather than lose him, but see if it's possible to do it for less. Maybe front load it with more guarantee, as insurance on the back end?
                  Originally posted by Giantamy View Post
                  as you can see:

                  Diehl, Canty, Webster are getting a lot of money $$$ and we can afford to get a lot of money back in releasing them.. I would do it! I would only keep Canty or Webster for a huge huge pay cut in the 3-4M less per year (won't happen)

                  Rolle is a so so situation ??? I would cut him next off season

                  Snee... well he will take a small pay cut I guess...will drop 1-2M to his annual salary

                  Boley and Tuck are a so so situation ... you can save money yes... but do you have the guys in place to replace them???

                  and look at Manning salary ...a 11M rise on the cap hit...if you rework the deal it will only hurt us even more next year

                  so my 2 cents:

                  cut Diehl
                  cut Canty
                  cut Webster
                  keep Rolle
                  keep Snee with small pay cut
                  keep Boley and Tuck and let them retire next season or don't re-sign them next year
                  don't touch Manning contract
                  let Osi go
                  let Terrell Thomas go
                  let Rivers go

                  re-sign Beatty 4-5M a year (5 years deal)
                  re-sign Unicorn 3 years 3.5M per year
                  re-sign Phillips 3 years 4M per year
                  re-sign Blackburn 3 years 2.5M per year
                  re-sign Boothe 2 years 2,5M per year
                  re-sign Locklear 1 year 1.5M
                  sign Cruz 4 years 6.5M per year
                  draft T/DE/DT/CB round 1
                  draft T/DE/DT/CB round 2
                  draft T/DE/DT/CB round 3
                  sign a starting LB free agent
                  sign the remaining (not drafted in the first 3 rounds) T/DE/DT/CB starter in free agency

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                    some of these guys are so overpaid its ridiculous.
                    It's the price you pay for constant restructuring.

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                    • #11
                      This is how bad I cried when I saw this list

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                      • #12
                        Barden and Beckum are unrestricted FA's after this season? Buh bye.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by P_Simms_#11 View Post
                          Barden and Beckum are unrestricted FA's after this season? Buh bye PLAYOFF HOPES.
                          fixed*
                          My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                            It's the price you pay for constant restructuring.
                            That and getting old OL castoffs in free agency instead of drafting OL like JR should have done 3 years ago...

                            I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                              That and getting old OL castoffs in free agency instead of drafting OL like JR should have done 3 years ago...
                              this year we have a real shot at a good T in the first 2 rounds ... we must strike!

                              Beatty-Boothe-Baas-Snee-Round 1 backup: Mosley-McCants-Cordle

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