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  • #16
    Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
    you mean the one we beat in the last 3 head to head match ups? including 2 Superbowl? pass,,,hey man,,,stuff happens like it or not,,at least we can find solace in the fact that we have won Superbowls,,,2 very recently.
    Yeah I know, we should trade for the Eagles who have killed us the past few years!
    My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
      Yeah I know, we should trade for the Eagles who have killed us the past few years!
      Both have done diddly-squat when it matters.
      For a Giant fan that I personally knew: My mom. May she smile and be delighted whenever her favorite player - Victor Cruz - scores a touchdown and does his salsa dance.

      Thank you mom for everything! Let's Go Giants!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tragic22 View Post
        Offense

        - Dwilson + A. Brown at RB.
        - Nicks healthy with an improved R.Randle as the 3rd WR. Prob bring M. Bennett back if its a decent contract
        - A new OT via draft or FA to replace Diehl. Somehow our line was dominant when he was gone and horrible when he came back. Hard to say its all on one guy but it sure looks like that

        Defense

        - I feel like maybe Kiwi>Tuck at DE so Id like to see him there and maybe have Tuck as that 3rd pass rusher
        - Webster and Canty's overpaid contracts cut
        - And via draft/FA I''d like to see a big run stuffing DT, stud rookie LB that can play the run and a CB. I feel like Prince and Hosely will both continue to get better and will prob be our cbs of the future. And between Rolle, S.Brown and Phillips (who could leave in FA i think) our safeties are fine
        I pretty much agree with everything. I dont think hosley can be a starter and i'd let to get one in the draft

        KP is a must sign as well as Beatty

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        • #19
          New OC

          Keep the following players:
          QB: Manning, Perriloux
          RB: Brown, Wilson
          FB: Hynocerous
          WR: Nicks, Cruz, Hixon, Randle, Jernigan (ST)
          OL: Beatty, Locklear, Mosley, Cordle (ST)

          DE: JPP, Kiwi, Ojomo, Tracy
          DT: Canty, Joseph, Kuhn
          OLB: Rivers, Boley, Williams, Paysinger (ST)
          ILB: Blackburn
          CB: Prince, Hosley, Hill (converted permanently to slot corner), Tryon (ST)
          S: KP, Stevie, Rolle

          LS: DeOssie
          K: Tynes
          P: Weatherford

          That leaves us with 18 spots to fill... the main starters that need to be filled in are 2 guards and a center on the OL, as well as depth for LB and the secondary...

          I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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          • #20
            If I were GM, the team would look as follows for 2013 Giants with new additions in red: (Just having fun, take it with a grain of salt....)

            HEAD COACH:
            Tom Coughlin

            OFFENSE COACHES:
            Norv Turner ----------Offensive Coordinator
            Matt Rhule Assistant --------- Offensive Line Coach
            Pat Flaherty -------------- Offensive Line
            Jerald Ingram --------- Running Backs
            Mike Pope --------- Tight Ends
            Sean Ryan --------- Quarterbacks
            Norv Turner --------- Wide Receivers
            Lunda Wells ---------- Offensive Assistant

            DEFENSE COACHES:

            Perry Fewell -----------Defensive Coordinator (can't expect Fewell & Co. to produce with crap on the field, free pass)
            Al Holcomb -----------Defensive Assistant
            Peter Giunta -----------Secondary/Corners
            David Merritt -----------Secondary/Safeties
            Jim Herrmann -----------Linebackers
            Robert Nunn -----------Defensive Line

            SPECIAL TEAMS COACHES:
            John Bonamego --------------Special Teams Coordinator (I think I can speak for us all on this one)
            Craig Aukerman --------------Assistant Special Teams Coach

            PLAYERS OFFENSE:
            (in starting order)

            WR Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks, Domenik Hixon, Rueben Randle, Ramses Barden, Jerrel Jernigan
            LT Will Beatty
            LG Kevin Boothe, 6TH ROUND PICK Hugh Thornton OG
            C David Baas, Jim Cordle
            RG Chris Snee, UFA (Bills) Andy Levitre (had a good year in Buffalo)
            RT Sean Locklear, David Diehl, + 1st ROUND PICK Johnathan Hankins (Yes DD still here)
            TE Martellus Bennett, Adrien Robinson , Bear Pascoe
            QB Eli Manning,Ryan Perialoux (I think Ryan is better and cheaper then Carr)
            FB Henry Hynoski
            RB Andre Brown, Ahmad Bradshaw, David Wilson (yes Wilson still 3rd RB for one more season until AB leaves)

            PLAYERS DEFENSE:

            LDE Mathias Kiwanuka, Ojomo, Adrian Tracy ( Mathias moved back to DE full time)
            LDT Linval Joseph, 3RD ROUND PICK Jordan Hill DT (bye,bye Marvin)
            RDT Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard
            RDE Jason Pierre-Paul, 2ND ROUND PICK Margus Hunt DE (bye,bye OSI)
            SLB Jacquian Williams, 4TH ROUND PICK Jonathan Bostic SLB
            MLB Chase Blackburn, Mark Herzlich
            WLB Michael Boley, Keith Rivers Spencer Paysinger
            LCB Corey Webster Jayron Hosley FA Micheal Coe
            RCB Prince Amukamara Justin Tryon FA Micheal Coe
            SS Stevie Brown Will Hill (I would let Phillips walk for the purpose of cap room, not on the field play)
            FS Antrel Rolle Tyler Sash

            PLAYERS SPECIAL TEAMS:

            P Steve Weatherford
            PK Lawrence Tynes
            H Steve Weatherford
            LS Zak DeOssie
            KR David Wilson, Rueben Randle
            PR Rueben Randle, Domenik Hixon, Victor Cruz, Jayron Hosley

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Moke View Post
              Trade the whole team for the Patriots team
              I was going to suggest Don Bosco.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by fletch842 View Post
                I was going to suggest Don Bosco.
                They didn't even make the State finals.

                First of all, I think we can all forget about the Giants dumping ANYONE with time left on their contract (Webster, Tuck).

                Secondly, the whole taking of a pay-cut is very VERY rare. If a guy is reasonably effective (which Canty and Rolle are), they'll never take a pay cut.

                Also, Phillips is good-as-gone. He's a risk that's too expensive for us to take with our cap situation. Some other team can roll those dice.

                Bennett I don't see coming back. It's another year, another TE for the GMen. Adrian Robinson and newbs will take over.

                Andre Brown is chop-meat. He's looked good at times, but can't be relied on to carry any workload for a season.

                We may draft a Guard, but Snee and Baas are both locked-up, so don't expect any improvements there (and yes, even the Almighty #76 has now had 2 bad seasons in a row).

                Sorry to be such a downer. . .Hopefully the team can improve. . .In Reese I Trust.

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                • #23
                  You gave PF a free pass? Blackburn still in the middle? Pretty much the same OL?
                  No thanks, I'll pass on this list. Nice try though

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RagTime Blue View Post
                    They didn't even make the State finals.

                    First of all, I think we can all forget about the Giants dumping ANYONE with time left on their contract (Webster, Tuck).

                    Secondly, the whole taking of a pay-cut is very VERY rare. If a guy is reasonably effective (which Canty and Rolle are), they'll never take a pay cut.

                    Also, Phillips is good-as-gone. He's a risk that's too expensive for us to take with our cap situation. Some other team can roll those dice.

                    Bennett I don't see coming back. It's another year, another TE for the GMen. Adrian Robinson and newbs will take over.

                    Andre Brown is chop-meat. He's looked good at times, but can't be relied on to carry any workload for a season.

                    We may draft a Guard, but Snee and Baas are both locked-up, so don't expect any improvements there (and yes, even the Almighty #76 has now had 2 bad seasons in a row).

                    Sorry to be such a downer. . .Hopefully the team can improve. . .In Reese I Trust.
                    I guess next year will be a repeat of this year, bummer.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tragic22 View Post
                      Offense

                      - Dwilson + A. Brown at RB.
                      - Nicks healthy with an improved R.Randle as the 3rd WR. Prob bring M. Bennett back if its a decent contract
                      - A new OT via draft or FA to replace Diehl. Somehow our line was dominant when he was gone and horrible when he came back. Hard to say its all on one guy but it sure looks like that

                      Defense

                      - I feel like maybe Kiwi>Tuck at DE so Id like to see him there and maybe have Tuck as that 3rd pass rusher
                      - Webster and Canty's overpaid contracts cut
                      - And via draft/FA I''d like to see a big run stuffing DT, stud rookie LB that can play the run and a CB. I feel like Prince and Hosely will both continue to get better and will prob be our cbs of the future. And between Rolle, S.Brown and Phillips (who could leave in FA i think) our safeties are fine
                      I think you are not cutting deep enough. We need to go beyond Diehl in overhauling the OL. We need to upgrade at LG and maybe C. That would improve our depth since we'd have big butt Boothe as a backup at G and C. We also need to go hard at the DL. tuck is tying up too much $$ for what he gives us. He probably needs to go, We also need 2 real LB if we are ever going to stop the run.
                      No one remembers who came in second.

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                      • #26
                        First and foremost get a OC and DC.. Simply for changes sake.. I'd reach out to Pepper Johnson or Mike Singeltary about being our new DC.. For OC, i'd get creatvie..

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                        • #27
                          Rebuild the OL through FA. On Sirius this morning they where talking about how you can build a good OL through FA and wouldn't break the bank doing so. If they can stay healthy they should be set at WR. Bennett says he wants to stay. We shall see. The running game should get better with a new OL and Wilson will have some experience and hopefully know how to block. On defense they have a nice group of young players in the secondary. They could still use another CB though. They absolutely need DE's and another DT would help. They are not in that bad of shape. If they fix the OL they should be able to get a couple more wins right there.

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                          • #28
                            We won't get it all done this offseason. We will have to choose what we want our weaknesses to be rather than try to address all of them. Depending on who you talk to the solutions differ for the same problem, so I'll list the problem I want addressed in order of importance followed by my recommended solution:

                            1. Bolster run defense- Run Stuffing DTs ***plural b/c I think both spots are up for grabs, Athletic and stout MLB,
                            2. Run blocking- draft an Olineman within the first 2 rounds or free agency stud.
                            3. Strengthen Pass rush- Put Kiwi on the line every down, but only if dedicates himself to weights in the offseason. Kiwi with added strength would be great versus the run on the line. He has great instincts. Need a DT to play besides JPP; something akin to the Justin Smith Aldon Smith tandem or Jared Allen, Kevin Williams tandem in Minnesota. I want to see what Tracy can do too at DE.
                            4. Running backs- More David Wilson, He is the future and the future is NOW.
                            5. WRs/TE- I want to see Nicks in an offseason strengthening program and see him add 5lbs of muscle to handle the wear and tear of the season. WHen Nicks and Cruz are healthy we are a drastically different team on offense. Barden and Randle can compete for the 3rd spot. I like Randle to take it. I'd like to resign Bennett.
                            6. OC- I want Gilbride to tweak his system to add more intermediate and short option routes. I think we are too hit and miss with the deep ball. I think that will bring some consistency too our offense. No I don't want a new coordinator, just tweak the system we have.
                            7. DC- Bye Bye Perry. Frustrated with our performance and I think it has more to do with our players, but with performance this bad I can't see how he gets a vote of confidence.

                            The rank is the most important thing to keep in mind when you read my list. RUN DEFENSE #1 PROBLEM!!!! It will be very painful to have to watch another season of any old team running straight up the gut as if we were boys and not men. That was really hard to watch.
                            Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                            http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jomo View Post
                              I think you are not cutting deep enough. We need to go beyond Diehl in overhauling the OL. We need to upgrade at LG and maybe C. That would improve our depth since we'd have big butt Boothe as a backup at G and C. We also need to go hard at the DL. tuck is tying up too much $$ for what he gives us. He probably needs to go, We also need 2 real LB if we are ever going to stop the run.
                              So you basically want a complete overhaul yet I remember you mocking my thread, hmm.......

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by B&RWarrior View Post
                                6. OC- I want Gilbride to tweak his system to add more intermediate and short option routes. I think we are too hit and miss with the deep ball. I think that will bring some consistency too our offense. No I don't want a new coordinator, just tweak the system we have.
                                7. DC- Bye Bye Perry. Frustrated with our performance and I think it has more to do with our players, but with performance this bad I can't see how he gets a vote of confidence.
                                You want PF gone when he had to deal with Tuck and Osi only collecting paychecks and little else on the field, but you want to give that ****ing scrub KILLDRIVE a free pass?

                                WRONG

                                No, it's the other way around. PF is salvageable, Killdrive needs to be run out of town ASAP.

                                I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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