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  • I'm still puzzled as to how underrated and underappreciated KP is on these boards

    He's a top 10 safety(roughly around(6-7)

    1. Troy Polamalu/Ed Reed
    2. Ed Reed/Troy Polamalu
    3. Eric Berry
    4. Earl Thomas
    5. Eric Weddle
    6. Antoine Bethea
    7. Kenny Phillips
    8. Kam Chancellor
    9. Jairus Byrd
    10. Dashon Goldson

    some others but coming into the season that was my list



    Anyway I keep seeing(on BBI as well) some fans saying he's average or not worth the money which is ridiculous.

    Our defense with KP on the field is THAT much better.

    He's had some freak injuries, I wouldn't call him injury prone.

    We're lucky to have him as a Giant. Dallas would grab him in a heartbeat, as would Philly.
    "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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    he's not worth nearly as much on the sidelines.

    you know this already. to pay the man what he's worth when he's on the field is unrealistic and stupid.

    those other safety's within 2 spots of KP on your list get $6 to $8 mill a season.

    top 10 WRs get $10 mill a season and we've got 2 up for new contracts in short order.

    we shouldn't pay KP $8 mill a season if he's gonna spend it riding a stationary bike.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
      he's not worth nearly as much on the sidelines.

      you know this already. to pay the man what he's worth when he's on the field is unrealistic and stupid.

      those other safety's within 2 spots of KP on your list get $6 to $8 mill a season.

      top 10 WRs get $10 mill a season and we've got 2 up for new contracts in short order.

      we shouldn't pay KP $8 mill a season if he's gonna spend it riding a stationary bike.
      Who said anything about paying him $8mil a season? He's a FA and will probably get a contract similar to either Kiwi as I'm sure he want to stay a Giant and the Giants want him back.

      I'm sure there will be a lot of incentives.
      "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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      • #4
        It's that knee that concerns me.
        My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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        • #5
          I hate lists, but I would just like to point out that Earl Thomas is pretty average (the scheme helps him, along with excellent CBs and a strong safety who does all the heavy work).

          And Eric Berry is not a top safety, he has been very poor this year, though he is coming off a torn ACL.

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          • #6
            I think he's top 5. And he's significantly better then Brown even though these boards are obsessed with a guy who waits for floaters but conveniently ignore his flaws that have hurt the Giants.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
              I hate lists, but I would just like to point out that Earl Thomas is pretty average (the scheme helps him, along with excellent CBs and a strong safety who does all the heavy work).

              And Eric Berry is not a top safety, he has been very poor this year, though he is coming off a torn ACL.
              Was my list coming into this season not sure what it looks like now.
              "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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              • #8
                Everyone loves the turnovers. Very few people appreciate solid and consistent deep field coverage.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EliDaMANning View Post
                  I think he's top 5. And he's significantly better then Brown even though these boards are obsessed with a guy who waits for floaters but conveniently ignore his flaws that have hurt the Giants.
                  Steve Brown is a stud you are NUTS... he has a lot of promise.

                  How could you POSSIBLY think otherwise?

                  He not only picks the ball off but he gets deflections as well and causes fumbles. He had 76 tackles this season to boot.

                  Do you know how hard it is to get 8 INT's?
                  "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                    Everyone loves the turnovers. Very few people appreciate solid and consistent deep field coverage.
                    EXACTLY this.

                    QB's fear throwing KP's way. Don't believe me? Ask Romo. Ask OC's.

                    I read a quote I forget but it echoed that sentiment.
                    "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                      Steve Brown is a stud you are NUTS... he has a lot of promise.

                      How could you POSSIBLY think otherwise?

                      He not only picks the ball off but he gets deflections as well and causes fumbles. He had 76 tackles this season to boot.
                      hes also allowed a significant number of catches, big plays, and TDs.

                      Teams dont throw those deep balls near KP when KP is on the field. They dont respect Stevie Brown much at all.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                        hes also allowed a significant number of catches, big plays, and TDs.

                        Teams don't throw those deep balls near KP when KP is on the field. They dont respect Stevie Brown much at all.
                        Of course not because no one really knows who he is, much like Cruz last season lol(not quite the same but you get the reference)

                        Sure he makes mistakes. He's still only 25 in a brand new scheme.

                        He had 11 PD's. He's a hell of a ball hawk.
                        "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                          Of course not because no one knows who he is, much like Cruz last season lol

                          Sure he makes mistakes. He's still only 25 in a brand new scheme.

                          He had 11 PD's. He's a hell of a ball hawk.
                          Yea, 19 total times he was credited with getting his hands on a ball, 8 of them picks.

                          KP had 15 last season.

                          A couple tipped balls go KPs way and he has similar numbers.

                          I like Stevie Brown a lot, but he has a ways to go to being a great safety.

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                          • #14
                            You forgot Kerry Rhodes, Mark Barron, Thomas Decoud, Ryan Clark, Daniel Manning, Morgan Burnett, Michael Griffin, Reggie Nelson, Malcom jenkins, reshad jones, TJ ward, Charles Woodson, Tyvon Branch, Antoine Bethea, Adrian Wilson, Laron landry, Stevie Brown ect, ect, ect, ect....Kenny Phillips is just another guy and I'm sure the interest in FA will reflect that

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                              Steve Brown is a stud you are NUTS... he has a lot of promise.How could you POSSIBLY think otherwise?He not only picks the ball off but he gets deflections as well and causes fumbles. He had 76 tackles this season to boot.Do you know how hard it is to get 8 INT's?
                              no I'm not ready to call him a stud just yet. He has ability but he gets picked on just as much as well. He also takes bad angles on run plays which lead to huge gains. I appreciate his turnover abilities don't get me wrong. But I wouldn't mind sacrificing a few of those for some consistency. KP consistency.

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