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  • Statistical Difference between Eli's 2012 and 2011 regular season

    If you look at the stats between 2012 and 2011 regular seasons.

    Eli threw 1 less intercept, 9 less sacks, and 3 less fumbles lost in 2012 compared to 2011. There were 50 less pass attempts in 2012 but, nevertheles, Eli had fewer "bad plays" per attempt.

    The real difference is Eli went from 8.4 yards per attempt to 7.4 this year.

    What was gone or the big reduction was in the "big gainers". There is no doubt that it is attributable to loss of Manningham and the injury to Nicks above all else.

    I also think defenses took the big gainer away from the Giants this year.

    End of the day, the Giants finished 9-7 with a tough schedule and tons of key injuries. I do not think it was as bad as some posters would paint the season. I think people need to be realistic of what we achieved with what we had. I also think throwing people who won 2 Superbowls under a bus (whether it is Eli or TC or whoever) is a little short sighted.

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    Never stopped to look at the numbers, but it seems pretty consistent with what I've been saying. Interesting post.
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    • #3
      I don't understand how he's "regressed".
      Mood: WOOF!

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      • #4
        Consistency was the big difference from this year to last.

        Giants fan since the early 80s

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        • #5
          I can see that. Eli was supported by a great receiving corps last year. Cruz, Nicks, MM, Ballard. And the Healthy Bradshaw/Jacobs tandem. With MM and Ballard gone, and Nicks hurt 3/4 of the season, Nobody stepped up and filled the 3rd receiver well. Benett did fill in nicely for Ballard, but I think its a downgrade. Jernigan, Hixon, and randle were spotty at best this year. I think we need to go into a 2 TE set
          They said Brady and the Patriots couldn't be beat, Eli did it twice, how's that for Elite?

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          • #6
            we need a younger oline n nicks healthy. end of story

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
              I don't understand how he's "regressed".
              Neither do I.

              I say the offense let him down this year more than anything.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                Never stopped to look at the numbers, but it seems pretty consistent with what I've been saying. Interesting post.
                I agree. Your point in the other thread on the difference healthy playmakers makes to this offense could easily reconcile the difference in the numbers. The WR's YAC gave Eli's stats a good boost last year, that was missing this year.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
                  I agree. Your point in the other thread on the difference healthy playmakers makes to this offense could easily reconcile the difference in the numbers. The WR's YAC gave Eli's stats a good boost last year, that was missing this year.
                  Yup definitely helped the stats. Well, I mean it helped the offense as a whole.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Markroman View Post
                    If you look at the stats between 2012 and 2011 regular seasons.

                    Eli threw 1 less intercept, 9 less sacks, and 3 less fumbles lost in 2012 compared to 2011. There were 50 less pass attempts in 2012 but, nevertheles, Eli had fewer "bad plays" per attempt.

                    The real difference is Eli went from 8.4 yards per attempt to 7.4 this year.

                    What was gone or the big reduction was in the "big gainers". There is no doubt that it is attributable to loss of Manningham and the injury to Nicks above all else.

                    I also think defenses took the big gainer away from the Giants this year.

                    End of the day, the Giants finished 9-7 with a tough schedule and tons of key injuries. I do not think it was as bad as some posters would paint the season. I think people need to be realistic of what we achieved with what we had. I also think throwing people who won 2 Superbowls under a bus (whether it is Eli or TC or whoever) is a little short sighted.

                    All things considered, do you think Eli played as well as he did in 2011?

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                    • #11
                      well done OP. nice post.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                        Neither do I.

                        I say the offense let him down this year more than anything.
                        i agree with this. also feel the defense didnt help much, but they didnt last year during the reg season either...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                          All things considered, do you think Eli played as well as he did in 2011?
                          I don't think he did. He tried to force things to happen that he didn't necessary need to. I think with a healthy Nicks, Cruz, Randle and Hixon going forward he will play better next year. That is also dependent on the O-line situation, which needs to be upgraded.
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                          • #14
                            exactly my point , fans look at stats so when they are padded during blowouts its not an accurate assessment. sure on paper the stats are similar , but we all know he was better last season. much better overall.

                            same with def and off rankings. coughlin is one smart cookie but it will backfire one day when a starter goes down in a blow out and he leaves them in.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kez Simpson View Post
                              I don't think he did. He tried to force things to happen that he didn't necessary need to. I think with a healthy Nicks, Cruz, Randle and Hixon going forward he will play better next year. That is also dependent on the O-line situation, which needs to be upgraded.
                              Eli was put in a position this year to make tougher plays, and he came up short - just like the rest of our team.

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