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  • Originally posted by ELIte4MVP View Post
    It's ok to be frustrated with gilbride at times. But if you were to fire him, there are only a few ocs who'd have the POTENTIAL to be better, and many of them are not available. Couple that with the fact that the risk is not worth the reward, and that's why he's still here. Plus the fact it'll take the offense almost a full season to learn a new offense, on top of any personnel changes on offense that may occur
    Exactly the you run the risk of the offense actually getting worse with a new OC.

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    • Killdrive supporters ? for you

      What is your take on why the offense was no good this year, every time someone makes a comment about the OC you guys remind us of how good he is yet you have no explanation why he is good nor do you have any reasoning why our offense struggled. ?? minus a couple of games where we really padded our stats like Saints, Eagles how would you rate our offense and what do you think the reason was.

      Remember now Killdrive is a great OC and cannot be replaced and Eli is a future hall of famer, so explain to us haters what the deal is.

      This should be very interesting!!! or are you just devil advocates that try to bring balance to the boards ?

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      • We have no short game.
        I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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        • Are u a supporter of Killdrive ?

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          • Originally posted by sheepdip View Post
            Are u a supporter of Killdrive ?
            Me? Yes. In so far as the people who call for his head usually have a really bad idea of who to replace him with.

            Now if we were to get Norv Turner as an OC, I wouldn't complain.
            I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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            • Originally posted by sheepdip View Post
              What is your take on why the offense was no good this year, every time someone makes a comment about the OC you guys remind us of how good he is yet you have no explanation why he is good nor do you have any reasoning why our offense struggled. ?? minus a couple of games where we really padded our stats like Saints, Eagles how would you rate our offense and what do you think the reason was.

              Remember now Killdrive is a great OC and cannot be replaced and Eli is a future hall of famer, so explain to us haters what the deal is.

              This should be very interesting!!! or are you just devil advocates that try to bring balance to the boards ?
              2 shortcommings that happened this year that did not happened last year.

              Passing efficiency was down:
              Nicks admitted yesterday or so it was reported on Big Blue Kickoff live that he was hampered more than every this year from years past with his injuries to both foot & knee. In the KG offense it is essential to have 3 viable WR's on the field on passing downs. No exceptions it's a read & react to the secondary route running that Nicks could not perfrom sucessfully. Opponent Ds watch film new this & concentrated more on Cruz who was basically shut down with double coverage. We can kid ourselves all we want to but this offense is built upon big play passing game to flip the field. Another was the fact that they had to break in a new TE again this season. Not sitting Nicks & playing Randle more hurt the passing game IMHO anyway.

              Running efficiency was down:
              When the NYG run offense was at its pinnacle ask yourself this question. How many RB's were used on a consistant basis? The answer was 3, remember earth wind & fire. This season we suffered more than normal with the loss of BJ then Andre Brown. No big back to soften up the D & bring the safeties closer to the line of scrimmage. We had the wind with Wilson & Fire with Bradshaw but no earth. PS: not playing Wilson more was a mistake IMHO anyway.

              If all come back healthy next year I expect another season with close to 5000 yds passing & over 30 TD passing season. If they can get Earth back in the run game that will improve the short yardage problem also.

              That's my opinion. I reported now you decide.

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              • Originally posted by jakegibbs View Post
                2 shortcommings that happened this year that did not happened last year.

                Passing efficiency was down:
                Nicks admitted yesterday or so it was reported on Big Blue Kickoff live that he was hampered more than every this year from years past with his injuries to both foot & knee. In the KG offense it is essential to have 3 viable WR's on the field on passing downs. No exceptions it's a read & react to the secondary route running that Nicks could not perfrom sucessfully. Opponent Ds watch film new this & concentrated more on Cruz who was basically shut down with double coverage. We can kid ourselves all we want to but this offense is built upon big play passing game to flip the field. Another was the fact that they had to break in a new TE again this season. Not sitting Nicks & playing Randle more hurt the passing game IMHO anyway.

                Running efficiency was down:
                When the NYG run offense was at its pinnacle ask yourself this question. How many RB's were used on a consistant basis? The answer was 3, remember earth wind & fire. This season we suffered more than normal with the loss of BJ then Andre Brown. No big back to soften up the D & bring the safeties closer to the line of scrimmage. We had the wind with Wilson & Fire with Bradshaw but no earth. PS: not playing Wilson more was a mistake IMHO anyway.

                If all come back healthy next year I expect another season with close to 5000 yds passing & over 30 TD passing season. If they can get Earth back in the run game that will improve the short yardage problem also.

                That's my opinion. I reported now you decide.
                I'm not sure you can say Cruz was "shut down" with almost 1,100 yards. I do agree about the 3 WR scheme.

                There is no question we are better with either a tandem running game or a three back scheme
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • "Don't you think with a top QB in Eli and the superior talent surrounding him that we should always have top offense no matter who the OC is?"

                  All teams think they have superior talent so what's your point? Look at the dream team or the boys or the deadskins. You don't think they have superior talent?

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                  • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                    I'm not sure you can say Cruz was "shut down" with almost 1,100 yards. I do agree about the 3 WR scheme.

                    There is no question we are better with either a tandem running game or a three back scheme
                    Can't really say that since we haven't had the horse since Tiki.
                    I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                    • Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                      Can't really say that since we haven't had the horse since Tiki.
                      I'm not sure I get that. I'm saying we've recently had more success with a multiple back set. Even Tiki had Jacobs for a change up back.
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      • Originally posted by sheepdip View Post
                        What is your take on why the offense was no good this year, every time someone makes a comment about the OC you guys remind us of how good he is yet you have no explanation why he is good nor do you have any reasoning why our offense struggled. ?? minus a couple of games where we really padded our stats like Saints, Eagles how would you rate our offense and what do you think the reason was.

                        Remember now Killdrive is a great OC and cannot be replaced and Eli is a future hall of famer, so explain to us haters what the deal is.

                        This should be very interesting!!! or are you just devil advocates that try to bring balance to the boards ?
                        This reasons for this season's offenses have been explained ad nauseum; it's just that your blind hate of KG makes you disregard those explanations out of hand.

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                        • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          I'm not sure I get that. I'm saying we've recently had more success with a multiple back set. Even Tiki had Jacobs for a change up back.
                          The last 5 years of his career Tiki averaged over 300 carries per year. Then add to that averaging 60+ receptions per year as well.

                          Ahmad Bradshaw and Jacobs averaged half of that (and a third on receptions).

                          There's a huge difference between "spelling" and "splitting".

                          Either can work and no way is better than the other ... it just depends on personnel. If we had Adrian Petersen (or Tiki still for that matter), would you really want to see AB or Jacobs getting half the carries?

                          P.S.- Jacobs had less than 50 attempts in 2005 and less than 100 attempts in 2006 ... the years he was spelling Tiki.
                          I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                          • Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                            The last 5 years of his career Tiki averaged over 300 carries per year. Then add to that averaging 60+ receptions per year as well.

                            Ahmad Bradshaw and Jacobs averaged half of that (and a third on receptions).

                            There's a huge difference between "spelling" and "splitting".

                            Either can work and no way is better than the other ... it just depends on personnel. If we had Adrian Petersen (or Tiki still for that matter), would you really want to see AB or Jacobs getting half the carries?

                            P.S.- Jacobs had less than 50 attempts in 2005 and less than 100 attempts in 2006 ... the years he was spelling Tiki.
                            We clearly don't have a feature back now, IMO. That could always change, but Tiki was unique and carried this team for several years.
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • I said I never bash KG agian after 2 SB wins... While I dont think he is the best, the team has confidence in him and the players are the ones who dont execute... Sometimes he has me scratchin my head but nothing this year made me wonder more than TC electing to go for it on 4th down 3 times int he Atlanta game when FGs could have been made...

                              When Eli plays like trash so does the rest of the team...
                              Go Giants!!!

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                              • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                                We clearly don't have a feature back now, IMO. That could always change, but Tiki was unique and carried this team for several years.
                                To my point that we just don't have the horse to run a feature back set.

                                To be honest, I kind of miss having the all-in-one guy.
                                I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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