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  • Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
    KG went with the right plan in the 2nd Redskins game. Haslett has had Eli's number in recent years in terms of TD/Int ratio so they didn't want to turn the ball over so easily through the air. The Redskins offense is just too physical for our defense to handle and it doesn't help when you have fluke fumble TDs scored against you lol.
    You have to admit in the 1st half we were much better than in the 2nd.
    Mood: WOOF!

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    • Originally posted by Drez View Post
      You mean the game where we ran for NINETY-SIX yards in the first half?

      What I recall of that game that was a bigger issue was the defense not being able to get off the field. We had all of 3 or 4 second half possessions and the defense allowed the Redskins to hold the ball for about TEN MINUTES THIRTY in the fourth quarter. Maybe I'm strange, but in a one point game I think a defense that can't get the ball back to its offense probably has more to do with a loss than running 3 or 4 more running plays than you may have been comfortable with in the second half.
      Our Defensive Captain and malcontent DE had publically stated their fears and nightmares. The defensive line folded before this game had even begun. Too much to ask for to have them chomping at the bit for a chance to hit Roach With Braids like Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens did. No, our defensive line folded and were scared of this guy. It was an embarrassment.

      Our best chance in that game was to take away the short and middle game and to force Roach With Braids to try and throw long but unfortunately, due to the fears and “nightmares” of our Defensive Captain and malcontent DE, our OC put together a gameplan to slow the game down when Eli Manning should have been throwing downfield and turning that game in to a shoot out. Our DC, Perry Fewell seemed to be a little lost in this game and didn’t adapt his gameplan at all. When our Defensive Captain and malcontent DE publically stated how afraid they were of Roach With Braids and how they “knew” that Eli would eat the clock and keep the rookie QB off the field, they should have been benched. Antrelle Rolle was right to be upset at the comments.

      Now folks are going to defend our piece of garbage OC for the 2nd Washington Redskins game?

      Eli missed a couple throws in the first half but was finding his groove and looked to be coming out of his slump. He was starting to throw well and pick that pass defense apart. So, our piece of garbage OC decides to handcuff our offense in the 2nd half and stops throwing the ball.

      The very fact that our garbage OC formulated a game plan to appease the fears of our Defensive Captain and malcontent DE over their fear of a rookie QB was ridiculous. Washington Redskins fans in the stadium were shocked that we had abandoned the passing game. Granted, Washington Redskins were the better team that day but our offensive gameplan hancuffed our offense and cost us. It is time to get rid of this piece of garbage OC.

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      • Wow. Seatlle just took away the short and middle and made RG III throw deep and what happenned? He got picked off.

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        • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
          You have to admit in the 1st half we were much better than in the 2nd.
          Their defense made adjustments to stop our run and Eli is still confused on how to deal with the Skins defense in regards to passing the ball on them. In all fairness, we just don't match up well with that team. We struggle against QBs with running potential and since we are a pass rushing defense more so than stout run defenders, that's why we struggle against Morris and the zone scheme as well. The game we should all be complaining about is that 1st Eagles game.

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          • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
            That's the problem. Stop going deep. The deep ball wasnt there this year, and we kept doing that.
            So, first we weren't aggressive enough. Now after being presented with info that shows we weren't successful when we were being aggressive you are now saying that we were too aggresive? Interesting.

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            • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
              Wow. Seatlle just took away the short and middle and made RG III throw deep and what happenned? He got picked off.
              They also have the best secondary in the NFL lol. We can't do some of the things they can.

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              • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                So, first we weren't aggressive enough. Now after being presented with info that shows we weren't successful when we were being aggressive you are now saying that we were too aggresive? Interesting.
                You can have a successful passing game without going deep. Of course KG doesnt know that.
                Mood: WOOF!

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                • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                  You can have a successful passing game without going deep. Of course KG doesnt know that.
                  Exactly. Look at how Mike Shannahan has it set up with the dink and dunk short and middle passes. The system is set up for success even if you miss a play or two while ours relies too much on the deep pass. Our offensive gameplans are too predictable.

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                  • Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                    Their defense made adjustments to stop our run and Eli is still confused on how to deal with the Skins defense in regards to passing the ball on them. In all fairness, we just don't match up well with that team. We struggle against QBs with running potential and since we are a pass rushing defense more so than stout run defenders, that's why we struggle against Morris and the zone scheme as well. The game we should all be complaining about is that 1st Eagles game.
                    In the second half of that game the OL just shut down. They didn't open any holes in the running game and couldn't pass pro to save their lives.

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                    • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                      You can have a successful passing game without going deep. Of course KG doesnt know that.
                      Again, KG doesn't dictate to Eli where to throw the ball. That decision is on Eli. Every singe route on every single play isn't a deep route. Eli chooses to throw it deep. Maybe it's because he wants the big play. Maybe the defense has taken away the shorter routes. Maybe the guys running the shorter routes didn't uncover in time.

                      Also, we need to keep our TEs and RBs in to block a lot of the time due to our OL giving up too much pressure. That GREATLY affects what you can do in the short or intermediate routes.

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                      • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
                        Exactly. Look at how Mike Shannahan has it set up with the dink and dunk short and middle passes. The system is set up for success even if you miss a play or two while ours relies too much on the deep pass. Our offensive gameplans are too predictable.
                        If you don't understand how or why their offensive scheme is set up like that, why it has the success it does, and why it wouldn't be successful here then there's nothing I can really say to you.

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                        • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                          Again, KG doesn't dictate to Eli where to throw the ball. That decision is on Eli. Every singe route on every single play isn't a deep route. Eli chooses to throw it deep. Maybe it's because he wants the big play. Maybe the defense has taken away the shorter routes. Maybe the guys running the shorter routes didn't uncover in time.Also, we need to keep our TEs and RBs in to block a lot of the time due to our OL giving up too much pressure. That GREATLY affects what you can do in the short or intermediate routes.
                          KG has no say so in our play calli g? Doesnt he give Eli a set of plays to choose from? Also, it's time to draft quality offensive linemen.
                          Mood: WOOF!

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                          • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                            You can have a successful passing game without going deep. Of course KG doesnt know that.
                            What are the chances Eli just feels more comfortable airing it out than dink and dunk?
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • Agreed - we need to draft a RT for sure - nothing to do with gilbride but yes we need some upgrades - i have full trust in reese.

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                              • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                                What are the chances Eli just feels more comfortable airing it out than dink and dunk?
                                If Eli are more comfortable airing it out to an injured receiver who shouldn't even be playing, then something is terribly wrong. That might be due to the fact that he's trying to get Hakeem in the game, but still, it just wasn't there.
                                Mood: WOOF!

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