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  • #91
    Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
    I wasn't questioning his intelligence. I was suggesting that his familiarity is obviously with this system.

    But again, what do you think Eli wants? Do you think he wants a new OC? And if he didn't, would you force a new one on him?

    And along those lines, if Eli was unhappy with our system do you think he would try to change it? And if he did, do you think the Giants would be amenable to his desires?
    He probably doesn't want a change because no one really truthfully likes change no matter what it is. If you asked him if he could learn a new scheme rather quickly I'm sure he would say give a bland answer.

    Eli is a great guy and a great teammate. He's not going to throw anyone under the bus no matter what. That doesn't mean he wouldn't thrive under a new OC.
    "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
      he turns the ball over a little too much for me to consider him the 3rd smartest qb in the NFL
      He doesn't mind making a mistake. That doesn't mean he's not smart. He trusts his receivers and tries to do too much when the line breaks down.

      He's a winner and doesn't are about his stats.
      "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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      • #93
        I'd love to hear who everyone thinks is a smarter QB than Eli besides Peyton or Brady.
        "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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        • #94
          Originally posted by moosedrool View Post
          Mediocre at best OL.

          An injured Nicks most of the year.

          Nicks injury was the killer to this offense, not Gilbride.
          and for the 1000th time, what specifically
          did killdrive do in an attempt to compensate for that.

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          • #95
            He probably doesn't want a change because no one really truthfully likes change no matter what it is.
            tell that to browns fans.
            Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

            ~Big Mike~

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post


              tell that to browns fans.
              Hahaha... you know what a mean
              "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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              • #97
                Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                I'd love to hear who everyone thinks is a smarter QB than Eli besides Peyton or Brady.
                matt ryan, brees, rodgers are some names that come to mind. I think they are smarter because their overall decision making on the field is better. they dont turn the ball over as much. as far as reading defenses goes, they are all very good at it. that is why they are all productive on the field for their team.


                prays: "please dont let him bring up playoff wins as if it justifies a player being smarter than another when wins come as a team. please let him give a more valid example."
                Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

                ~Big Mike~

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                  He probably doesn't want a change because no one really truthfully likes change no matter what it is. If you asked him if he could learn a new scheme rather quickly I'm sure he would say give a bland answer.

                  Eli is a great guy and a great teammate. He's not going to throw anyone under the bus no matter what. That doesn't mean he wouldn't thrive under a new OC.
                  So you are saying you would get rid of Gilbride despite Eli's wishes. Interesting.

                  I guess most people think of you as being more of a homer than me, so I find it interesting that you would just fire Gilbride, while I would defer to Eli. I believe Eli is that important to this franchise.
                  Torque it till it breaks, then back off a 1/4 turn.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                    You can't just leave!
                    True. It does have train wreck appeal, lol.

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                    • Originally posted by OX1 View Post
                      and for the 1000th time, what specifically
                      did killdrive do in an attempt to compensate for that.
                      Nada.

                      Kept Diehl at RT.
                      Failed to use Barden or Randle when Nicks was ailing.
                      "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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                      • Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
                        matt ryan, brees, rodgers are some names that come to mind. I think they are smarter because their overall decison making on the field is better. they dont turn the ball over as much. asa far is reading defenses goes, they are do that very well. that is why they are productive on the field for their team.prays: "please dont let him bring up playoff wins as if it justifies a player being smarter than another when wins come as a team. please let him give a more valid example."
                        I don't know if I would say smarter, probably consistent is a better word.
                        Mood: WOOF!

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                        • Originally posted by moosedrool View Post
                          You just realized this now


                          Sometimes I carry a lot of rope.
                          Torque it till it breaks, then back off a 1/4 turn.

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                          • Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
                            matt ryan, brees, rodgers are some names that come to mind. I think they are smarter because their overall decision making on the field is better. they dont turn the ball over as much. as far as reading defenses goes, they are all very good at it. that is why they are all productive on the field for their team.


                            prays: "please dont let him bring up playoff wins as if it justifies a player being smarter than another when wins come as a team. please let him give a more valid example."
                            Brees throws a ton of picks, too. He's thrown 15 or more in all but like 3 or 4 seasons.

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                            • Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                              Nada.

                              Kept Diehl at RT.
                              Failed to use Barden or Randle when Nicks was ailing.
                              this i agree with. im not sure if its his ultimate decision or TC's decision but this these were some big mistakes. Good point here
                              Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

                              ~Big Mike~

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                              • Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
                                matt ryan, brees, rodgers are some names that come to mind. I think they are smarter because their overall decision making on the field is better. they dont turn the ball over as much. as far as reading defenses goes, they are all very good at it. that is why they are all productive on the field for their team.


                                prays: "please dont let him bring up playoff wins as if it justifies a player being smarter than another when wins come as a team. please let him give a more valid example."
                                Oops forgot Rodgers.. Matt Ryan LOL please don't make me laugh.

                                Guy has the most unbelievable receiving corps in the league (not to mention which is probably the biggest reason for his success), Tony Gonzalez.

                                Brees turns the ball over just as much if not more than Eli and he has a "safe" "high percentage" offense.
                                "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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