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    I saw a poll on ESPN asking who was the greater linebacker. Lewis vs. LT. 52% said LT 48% said Ray Lewis. Yes, Lewis had a great career but do almost half of the people that follow football think that he was better than LT? That's crazy. LT was by far the best ever.
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    I've never seen L.T play but from the various videos I've seen L.T looks way better.

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    • #3
      17 years at MLB is unreal - just amazing. The guy was a warrior, a tackle machine, had the speed to cover and could change a game. Durable and an awesome motivator of men. The 2000 defense was incredible

      LT changed the way the position was played - no one played OLB like him. HE CHANGED THE GAME.The 86 defense was unreal and the 90 was pretty specoal too. Edge to taylor, but Ray is one of the greats and after early trouble off the field looks like he has really become a great man - wish we could say the same for Lawrence.

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      • #4
        MLB and OLB

        not worth comparing

        different animals in completely different defensive schemes

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dave56dj View Post
          17 years at MLB is unreal - just amazing. The guy was a warrior, a tackle machine, had the speed to cover and could change a game. Durable and an awesome motivator of men. The 2000 defense was incredible

          LT changed the way the position was played - no one played OLB like him. HE CHANGED THE GAME.The 86 defense was unreal and the 90 was pretty specoal too. Edge to taylor, but Ray is one of the greats and after early trouble off the field looks like he has really become a great man - wish we could say the same for Lawrence.
          17 years is incredible,,,,but the game changed drastically. Yes I agree though there will NEVER be another L.T. and the fact that 48% people think Ray Lewis is better, shows that they do not know football.
          sigpicShould the Giants fire Gilbride....

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONL7L...yer_detailpage

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          • #6
            Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
            MLB and OLB

            not worth comparing

            different animals in completely different defensive schemes
            +1

            Harry Carson would be a more appropriate comparison.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NYGfanNC View Post
              I saw a poll on ESPN asking who was the greater linebacker. Lewis vs. LT. 52% said LT 48% said Ray Lewis. Yes, Lewis had a great career but do almost half of the people that follow football think that he was better than LT? That's crazy. LT was by far the best ever.
              For the positions they played and how their faces became synonymous with those spots yes. Now Ray Lewis would never have been the pass rushing, outside beast LT was I'm just as confident to say LT would never have been the intelligent play diagnosing between the tackles beast that Ray Lewis was. When you thing 3-4 OLB the first name mentioned is LT's. when you think MLB the first name mentioned is Lewis. Lewis in the only linebacker to have the Tackles, INT, and FF numbers the way he has proving to be an ALL AROUND linebacker.

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              • #8
                Sure but you could certainly try and compare their greatness at their respective spots. To me you can argue other MLB's with Ray (butkus nitchscke) but there is no argument in my opinion to LT and the old. To cloud - far better is not fair. Lewis is a legend at MLB and LT is too. You could argue a case for either but I still give the edge to LT for revolutionizing the position.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NYGfanNC View Post
                  I saw a poll on ESPN asking who was the greater linebacker. Lewis vs. LT. 52% said LT 48% said Ray Lewis. Yes, Lewis had a great career but do almost half of the people that follow football think that he was better than LT? That's crazy. LT was by far the best ever.

                  One guy redefined the position and created a prototype of excellence at LB for decades to follow.

                  The other guy is Ray Lewis.

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                  • #10
                    Sorry, but LT played at a different time when the caliber of player was lower.

                    Ray Lewis is a beast and the best.

                    -Giants fan.

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                    • #11
                      So you can't compare players cause they are from the past? Of course the game has changed - you are comparing them at the times they played not if LT were playing now. In that case boley is better then ray cause he is still playing and 2013 players are far better then 12 - gimme a break LT redefined the game and was better then any backer of his time.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RUN BRADSHAW View Post
                        Sorry, but LT played at a different time when the caliber of player was lower.

                        Ray Lewis is a beast and the best.

                        -Giants fan.
                        Giants fan or not that assessment is dead wrong. The fact is that pre-salary cap football allowed teams to assemble some of the best talent ever, far more than will ever be possible in the salary cap era.

                        The difference is as simple as this: when you walked away from some of the best games Ray Lewis played in his prime you were left with the thought of "Wow that may be the best player on defense in the game right now.", but when you finished watching some of the best games that LT played in his prime you left the game saying"Wow, that could be the most dominant football player I've ever seen ever!"

                        I've never seen Ray Lewis dominate a game on the level of LT. This isn't even a good argument. This argument could only be made by people that didn't see LT play or don't remember how good he was.

                        FYI I am a lifetime Ray Lewis fan. I have followed his career since he played at Miami, but this is just CRAZY TALK!!!
                        Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                        http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RUN BRADSHAW View Post
                          Sorry, but LT played at a different time when the caliber of player was lower.

                          Ray Lewis is a beast and the best.

                          -Giants fan.
                          ok.....so you are saying that Joe Jacoby, Russ Grim, Anthony Munoz, Randall McDaniel, Bruce Matthews, Jeff Bostic, Mark May , John Riggins, Tony Dorsett, Doug Cosbie, Wilbert Montgomery, John Spagnola , etc etc etc were low caliber players ?

                          not to mention guys like Reggie White, Jarome Brown, Bruce Smith, Jack Youngblood

                          not sure your argument is credible whatsoever

                          ask Joe Gibbs .....who changed the way blocking schemes are implemented to this day because of LT

                          we all know the term "the blind side".........there was no blind side until pass rushers like LT

                          ask Ron Jaworski about that
                          Last edited by YATittle1962; 01-02-2013, 07:43 PM.

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                          • #14
                            No Comparison ! LT was unbleivable ! I saw him in person and he was a beast !

                            Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
                            I've never seen L.T play but from the various videos I've seen L.T looks way better.
                            LT was the fastest, strongest and smartest all around linebacker ever ! Change the game and the way offensives had to block and contain outside linebackers.

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                            • #15
                              half the people polled are 20

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