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  • Very Luck This Year

    JR (love the guy) put us on the razor's edge with our OL this year. To begin with the overall quality in NFL terms was no better than B grade for our starters. Worse however was the lack of depth and quality of that depth. We were very fortunate to find Locklear who was a capable backup for Diehl. Once Locklear went down our only backups were Brewer and Cordle (we let the embarrasingly bad Petrus go mid season). In this league I don't know how you can enter a season so thin at OL. We were lucky that the injury bug didn't hit us with that unit. The results would have been disastrous.
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    i agree i credit Eli with throwing the ball quickly and dodging hits. some other qb's might be dead already. i like reese but he hasnt done a great job cap wise and even this season looks like 2 million to work with and resign our own players.

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    • #3
      Well, Petrus did come on strong at the end of '11, there was no telling he was going to completely regress this season. I think they also thought that Brewer would have been able to compete more strongly for the RT spot, which meant that we could have used both Locklear and Diehl as swing guys on the line. That didn't pan out this season, obviously. We also have the two guys we drafted in the mid and late rounds, Mosely and McCants. Hopefully, they'll be able to contribute next season.

      All that being said, I certainly wouldn't be upset if we spent at least one of our first 3 picks on OL.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Harooni View Post
        i agree i credit Eli with throwing the ball quickly and dodging hits. some other qb's might be dead already. i like reese but he hasnt done a great job cap wise and even this season looks like 2 million to work with and resign our own players.

        After looking at the numbers, Patricia Traina thinks we'll be in a decent spot cap-wise next year, though she hasn't yet stated what she thinks the number will look like.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Drez View Post
          After looking at the numbers, Patricia Traina thinks we'll be in a decent spot cap-wise next year, though she hasn't yet stated what she thinks the number will look like.
          i think thats provided we cut some fat this offseason if reese restructures a ton it will just push things off another year. we need FA help bad this offseason.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Harooni View Post
            i think thats provided we cut some fat this offseason if reese restructures a ton it will just push things off another year. we need FA help bad this offseason.
            We do need help there and free agents are the worst value for a team, cap wise. What really helps a team is when guy like Bradshaw or Cruz jump to a big time role from deep in the draft or unddrafted FA altogether. We get those guys for a song whereas we pay free agents every nickle they are already worth and then some because we are competing for them. Real cap killers...............
            No one remembers who came in second.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Harooni View Post
              i think thats provided we cut some fat this offseason if reese restructures a ton it will just push things off another year. we need FA help bad this offseason.
              Nope, that was her just looking over the numbers on the books for next year. Granted, that doesn't include deals for Cruz or Beatty... Or any of our other FAs.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Drez View Post
                Nope, that was her just looking over the numbers on the books for next year. Granted, that doesn't include deals for Cruz or Beatty... Or any of our other FAs.
                are you talking about this off season or next ??? because this one you are dead wrong as of right now we are tight again

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                  are you talking about this off season or next ??? because this one you are dead wrong as of right now we are tight again
                  This is what she said:

                  Patricia Traina ‏@Patricia_Traina
                  As I come to the end of this analysis, it looks like NYG will have a lot of cap room to work with. Can't say how much yet, tho.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Drez View Post
                    This is what she said:

                    Patricia Traina ‏@Patricia_Traina
                    As I come to the end of this analysis, it looks like NYG will have a lot of cap room to work with. Can't say how much yet, tho.

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                    im not sure whats she is reffering to because we have huge cap numbers for several players that restructured the years before and 21 of our own Free agents to resign or replace.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                      im not sure whats she is reffering to because we have huge cap numbers for several players that restructured the years before and 21 of our own Free agents to resign or replace.
                      Well, of course the cap figure doesn't take into account resigning any of our FAs. However, I think most of the big earners on defense have their numbers go down this year over last, i.e. Webster is set to get $1m or $2m less this upcoming season... I'll tend to trust her though, as she has access to the actual numbers from the NFL offices or NFLPA, where we only get what's been released.

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                      • #12
                        Locklear was a lucky find.

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                        • #13
                          Its odd to say he left us razor thin and then say he got lucky with locklear - why lucky? How bout he scouted well and knew he had a nice potential backup or swing who proved to be starter quality. Were we thin and perhaps less talented in the trench this year - yes, but every team EVERY TEAM has their weakness. Tough rolling with it in the trench and eli saves a ton of sacks with quick reads but yeah we were lacking a bit for sure. Lets see how he cleans it up.

                          Who to move and who to stick with:

                          Diehl - Love the guys durablility and loyalty but we all know he's a swinging gate now.
                          Baas - Not great but ok - hasn't really lives up to contract - does he go? doubtful - cordle hasn't shown much.
                          Boothe - FA, nice find - good player not special at all.
                          Snee - still a nice guard but seems to be declining.
                          Beatty - FA and i think he's a good one - would like him back.

                          Mosley off ir may get a chance - Brewer was awful in preseason but who knows if he has developed more, mccants is a huge project as is adams - as is capers. maybe time to go early on a guard or center or RT.

                          Thoughts?
                          Last edited by dave56dj; 01-02-2013, 09:05 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fourth&forever View Post
                            Locklear was a lucky find.
                            ...........exactly to my point and we were still perilously thin at OL. ...........or even if you call it good scouting and he was "NFL Experienced" we entered the season with ONE experience backup in Locklear and he was a guy who was cast aside by his previous team. If that isn't razor thin I don't know what it.
                            Last edited by jomo; 01-02-2013, 09:48 PM.
                            No one remembers who came in second.

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                            • #15
                              I agree - - - after Locklear, the backup OL this year were garbage. Luckily, we didn't need to rely on them.

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