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Victor Cruz Expected to Seek $8 - 10 Million Per Season

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  • I'd tender Cruz for this year. That's too much right now.
    My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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    • Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
      Again, having Nicks and Cruz level receivers as your #1 and #2 is a luxury. Most teams don't have that sort of talent and instead "move" that productivity elsewhere. Randle doesn't have to be Nicks good because we can rely on the TE more and perhaps Wilson will reach his top potential so there isn't a huge need for an elite WR duo like we had in 2011.
      +1 insert randel as the number 1 and polish up a solid O line and the offense will be fine.
      Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

      ~Big Mike~

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      • Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
        I say we tender Cruz, get a 1st from another team, stockpile picks, and make a push for Clowney in 2014. At that point, we can laugh at the opposing QB as he gets clobbered by JPP and the Clown repeatedly.


        ...That's why I'm not a GM.
        i dont watch college so im going to look up this clowney guy. i take it hes really good?
        Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

        ~Big Mike~

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        • the Giants know they cannot operate their offense without his skills at receiver.
          This is the craziest statement of this article.

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          • This whole Cruz debate is funny.

            Just wait till next year when people's heads explode because JPP wants $15 million/year.

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            • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
              This whole Cruz debate is funny.Just wait till next year when people's heads explode because JPP wants $15 million/year.
              I wish he'd come that cheap.
              My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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              • Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                I wish he'd come that cheap.
                If he produces like he did this year he'll come cheaper.

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                • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
                  If he produces like he did this year he'll come cheaper.
                  Yeah, maybe in 10 million range, but then you wonder if someone who's only had one true dominating year is worth 10 mil a year. You want someone paid like that to be the cornerstone of their respective side of the ball, not a component that shoulders more responsibility.
                  My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                  • Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
                    I say get rid of nicks, keep cruz, groom randel
                    Nicks had an off year completely due to injuries... and missed 6 games in 3 years prior.... He is such a quality receiver I am AMAZED how undervalued he is here.

                    We NEED Hakeem Nicks period.

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                    • Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                      Yeah, maybe in 10 million range, but then you wonder if someone who's only had one true dominating year is worth 10 mil a year. You want someone paid like that to be the cornerstone of their respective side of the ball, not a component that shoulders more responsibility.
                      This is another conversation for another time, but last year I thought JPP was the most disruptive defensive player in the league. He was the rare defensive player that could single-handedly win games for you like he did in the first Cowboy game last year. I would have no problem paying that guy whatever he wants. This year...dissapointing to say the least. I was expecting him to do what JJ Watt and Aldon Smith did. Next year will obviously determine a lot.

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                      • Originally posted by Ruttiger711 View Post
                        Nicks had an off year completely due to injuries... and missed 6 games in 3 years prior.... He is such a quality receiver I am AMAZED how undervalued he is here.

                        We NEED Hakeem Nicks period.
                        I completely agree with this.
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          I completely agree with this.
                          I agree. If you want to build a dominate WR unit, it's gotta be from the split-end to in, not from the slot to out. Dominating X receivers open the whole offense up. Dominating slot receivers convert first downs, and maintain drives. Cruz actually can make big plays too, which is also very valuable asset.
                          My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                          • Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                            I'd tender Cruz for this year. That's too much right now.
                            The problem with a tender is you can lose the player:

                            Excerpt: "Restricted free agents -- three-year players with expiring contracts -- can receive offers from other teams, but the incumbent team has a right to match. Should it not match, it is entitled to draft-choice compensation corresponding to the level of tender placed on the player.

                            Personnel experts usually identify the time between the third and fifth year of a player's career as the "sweet spot" in the player's performance arc, meaning there's sufficient development without excessive wear and tear. And from a front office vantage point, teams would rather pay a discounted price for a restricted free agent than pay "retail" for unrestricted free agents. Yet RFAs have been largely ignored. Let's analyze the recent past:" Read more...

                            http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/78...rge-extinction
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                              Yeah, maybe in 10 million range, but then you wonder if someone who's only had one true dominating year is worth 10 mil a year. You want someone paid like that to be the cornerstone of their respective side of the ball, not a component that shoulders more responsibility.
                              You don't think back to back 1,000 yard seasons is dominating?
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                              • Originally posted by Ruttiger711 View Post
                                Nicks had an off year completely due to injuries... and missed 6 games in 3 years prior.... He is such a quality receiver I am AMAZED how undervalued he is here.

                                We NEED Hakeem Nicks period.
                                Nail hit directly on head.

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