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  • Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
    2.5 and a gift card to The Red Lobster
    Maybe we could negotiate beer into the contract?

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    • Originally posted by Ruttiger711 View Post
      Well if 2013 is a repeat of 2012 obviously not.

      ...but when I hear "injury issues" or "injury prone", a player like Bradshaw is what comes to mind... he's had bad feet, he had bad feet this year and no doubt will have bad feet in the future. Nicks broke his foot THIS year, he came back nearly recovered had a 200 yard game and then had his almost fully healed foot stepped on and had obvious setbacks. Next season will tell if hes injury prone, not what happened this year.
      I don't think Nicks is in the same category as Bradshaw who is perennially injured. But I do think the style of play for a running back and wide receiver require different skill sets. Nicks had a broken foot which healed and then the knee. I am assuming his knee will heal up with a few months rest and or some medical procedure if indicated.
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • Originally posted by Riverboat76 View Post
        This whole Cruz debate is funny.

        Just wait till next year when people's heads explode because JPP wants $15 million/year.
        He needs to have a better year than he had this season to get anything close to that.
        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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        • Originally posted by repeatchamps View Post
          Maybe not 8-10 but 6.5 or 7 per year is likely going to happen so people better start getting used to that idea because nothing any of us here say is going to matter.
          Isn't that close to what Steve smith was offered? If so I agree I think 8 would be the absolute top dollar we'd offer. I'm fine with that as long as he concentrates on football 100%

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          • SAY GOODBYE TO CRUZ

            It looks like there is a strong probability that Cruz won't be in our future plans. It appears he is looking for 8-10 million dollars a year. I think he's worth something in that range but the Giants will never pay that to him with all their contracts coming up and no big cap increases for next year. Also they will have to give Nicks the same which they cannot afford. So unless something gets worked out, IMO next year may be his last. I hope this gets resolved because I want him to be a Giant for a long time.
            Last edited by NYGiantsFan56; 01-04-2013, 03:43 PM.

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            • There's like a hundred thousand threads about this.

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              • Originally posted by NYGiantsFan56 View Post
                It looks like there is a strong probability that Cruz won't be in our future plans. It appears he is looking for 8-10 million dollars a year. I think he's worth something in that range but the Giants will never pay that to him with all their contracts coming up and no big cap increases for next year. Also they will have to give Nicks the same which they cannot afford. So unless something gets worked out, IMO next year may be his last. I hope this gets resolved because I want him to be a Giant for a long time.
                OK, we've done this to death already. HE isn't asking for $8 - 10 M. That figure was an UNEDUCATED GUESS by a media head. We don't know what he's actually asking for but we do know from him that he's positive about his negotiations resulting in a long term deal with the GIANTS.
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                  OK, we've done this to death already. HE isn't asking for $8 - 10 M. That figure was an UNEDUCATED GUESS by a media head. We don't know what he's actually asking for but we do know from him that he's positive about his negotiations resulting in a long term deal with the GIANTS.
                  While you are completely correct Roanoke, the media reports themselves are still not going to do us any good.
                  You have to believe that Cruz, and especially his agent, have seen all 3000 headlines by now that claim he is worth $8-10 mil a season.

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                  • Originally posted by njg85m View Post
                    While you are completely correct Roanoke, the media reports themselves are still not going to do us any good.
                    You have to believe that Cruz, and especially his agent, have seen all 3000 headlines by now that claim he is worth $8-10 mil a season.
                    What's the relevance of that?
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                      What's the relevance of that?
                      The relevance is that there are a couple teams in the league (*cough* raiders *cough*) who would be more than willing to pay that amount when Cruz starts to believe that's what he's worth. And the only thing I'm saying is that the nonstop media reports claiming that's what he's going to be asking for are definitely not helping one way or the other.

                      You and I both know that.

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                      • Originally posted by njg85m View Post
                        While you are completely correct Roanoke, the media reports themselves are still not going to do us any good.
                        You have to believe that Cruz, and especially his agent, have seen all 3000 headlines by now that claim he is worth $8-10 mil a season.
                        If agents are relying on the media to determine their negotiation strategy they may as well use a ouija board. The negotiations began long before this media head "guess" and there are any number of facts that will factor in to what Cruz will ask for which should not be confused with what the team is willing to pay. What other receivers of similar circumstance are paid will factor in as will the fact that Cruz is pretty high up on the passes dropped list.

                        I don't think there's any doubt they want Cruz to remain a Giant with a long term contract. His back to back 1,000 yard seasons can't be ignored as well as his Pro Bowl selection. While I'm the first to point to the Pro Bowl as little more than a beauty contest , players like having that to point to when negotiating.

                        I don't know what's going to happen, but I think it's better than an 85% chance Cruz remains a GIANT
                        Last edited by RoanokeFan; 01-04-2013, 04:25 PM.
                        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                        • Originally posted by njg85m View Post
                          The relevance is that there are a couple teams in the league (*cough* raiders *cough*) who would be more than willing to pay that amount when Cruz starts to believe that's what he's worth. And the only thing I'm saying is that the nonstop media reports claiming that's what he's going to be asking for are definitely not helping one way or the other.

                          You and I both know that.
                          Cruz and his agent know what they are looking for. To suggest that its now higher because a bunch of media folks and posters on MB's say he's worth it, would be to presuppose that Cruz and his agent are a couple of morons.
                          The only thing that matters is what 32 teams are willing to pay for his services. What REALLY matters right now is what the Giants think they can sign him for based on the market and our needs as a football team.
                          NOTHING that's been said over the past 2 or 3 days would change that in any way.
                          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                          • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...qMvKqFlZLrp39M

                            Excerpt: "Victor Cruz has done enough to convince the Giants he deserves to be wearing his No. 80 jersey and doing his salsa in the end zone for a long time. It is going to cost the Giants dearly, though, to get him locked up with a multi-year deal.

                            Cruz is set to become a restricted free agent and he’s not going anywhere, as the Giants know they cannot operate their offense without his skills at receiver. They would likely tender him on a one-year deal if they cannot agree on a long-term contract.
                            After playing for the NFL minimums the past three years, Cruz won’t come cheap, not after two outstanding seasons by a 26-year-old on the upside of his career. His asking price is expected to be somewhere between $8 million and $10 million per year. Cruz made $540,000 this season and the last two years he has been the greatest bargain in the league.

                            “I think I feel comfortable where we’re at,’’ Cruz said yesterday on his weekly WFAN spot. “I think I’ve done enough to show them I’m a good guy on and off the field and I’ve done everything positive up until this point to prove that I’m somebody the organization will want to keep around for a long time. I’m positive things will come around and a positive outcome will come out of all this.’’


                            Cruz has previously said he wanted a new deal in place before the end of the season and revealed weeks ago that he believed the structure for such a deal was in place. Talks, he reported, “got tabled for a couple weeks mainly because the two sides agreeing to disagree at the same time. Now that the season is over and the statistics are what they are I think we’re gonna get back and pick up the pen again and see what we can do.’’
                            Cruz is one of 22 free agents for the Giants to sort through but he figures to be a top priority. Fellow receiver Hakeem Nicks was slowed all season with foot and ankle issues, allowing opposing defenses to swing the attention to Cruz. Still, he caught 86 passes for 1,092 yards and 10 touchdowns, all team highs. He hasn’t missed a game in two years.

                            A year ago, the free agent market produced some hefty salaries for receivers and Cruz will benefit from that spending spree. After all, he compares favorably to DeSean Jackson (five years, $47 million), Robert Meachem (four years, $25.9 million) and Pierre Garcon (five years, $42.5 million). Cruz’ two-year totals (168 catches, 2,628 yards, 19 touchdowns) are better than any two seasons put together by Vincent Jackson and he signed a five year, $55.6 million mega deal with the Buccaneers." Read more...
                            8 - 10 million? Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
                            “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”
                            ― George Carlin

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                            • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                              CRUZ IS N OT MAKING THAT DEMAND, that is the writer's uneducated guess
                              Hah! You can post that 1000 times, it won't matter. The story has wings now man...Cat's out of the bag and all that....The frenzy has begun.

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                              • Originally posted by M00KIE View Post
                                Hah! You can post that 1000 times, it won't matter. The story has wings now man...Cat's out of the bag and all that....The frenzy has begun.
                                I laughed yesterday when someone posted "I didn't read the article but....."
                                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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