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  • #16
    Reese won't overpay for anyone. Let's consider waiting for the actual details to leak out before we start chanting "Cruz Must Go."
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    • #17
      Originally posted by dakotajoe View Post
      I didn't read the article but I thought Roanoke said 8 million was an educated guess by the NY Post. The Post isn't the most accurate paper and is known to sensationalize stories.

      I definitely wouldn't say Cruz excels mainly due to the scheme. He's the best route runner on the team and can shake a defender to get open unlike many other in the league. I rather have the skill set than a Mike Wallace/Desean Jackson type receiver.
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      • #18
        You don't overpay system players. The same people who are saying we should give Cruz ~10 million a year are probably the ones that were saying Steve Smith was irreplaceable.

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        • #19
          That article is entirely speculative, don't take it as fact. Cruz's market value would be in that range but who knows what his team is actually asking for.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
            That article is entirely speculative, don't take it as fact. Cruz's market value would be in that range but who knows what his team is actually asking for.
            Jesus, FINALLY
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            • #21
              Cruz could get $10 million a season from somebody.

              i'll be absolutely stunned if his contract is $6-$7 million a season. STUNNED.

              the 8-10 is an uneducated guess, but its based on multiple contracts for elite WRs in the NFL.

              hard to argue that Cruz isn't an elite WR.

              i've been saying this for 2 years, we can't pay both WRs in the 8-10 range, and our QB $20 a season, so whatever Cruz gets will largely cast the die of what the giants plan on doing with Nicks.
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              • #22
                Attack this post/me all you would like, but....

                Cruz! plays too small for me to warrant him a 8-10 mil a year contract, and what i mean by small is he really is scared of getting hit over the middle. Times i have watched him catch the ball and drop to the floor if he doesn't have a clear break away.
                What i love about cruz, he is a smart route runner, great speed, can play all three wide out positions, great personality a true giant; classy.
                I just don't think he plays big, if he does that then i would agree he is a 8-10 mil a year guy.

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                • #23
                  Wow, tensions are high in this thread...

                  cruz doesnt have that elite measurement trait, and while cruz is 5x the wr djax is (imo), in the FA market, traits like speed bc the highest priced commodities. look at the mike wallace situation...
                  It's explosion off the line that is valued too because those guys can separate from opposing defensive backs easier on the outside during the initial part of the route. Theoretically, you can teach route running but not speed and explosion. I guess that's how it's seen in the FA market with young receivers.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                    Attack this post/me all you would like, but....

                    Cruz! plays too small for me to warrant him a 8-10 mil a year contract, and what i mean by small is he really is scared of getting hit over the middle. Times i have watched him catch the ball and drop to the floor if he doesn't have a clear break away.
                    What i love about cruz, he is a smart route runner, great speed, can play all three wide out positions, great personality a true giant; classy.
                    I just don't think he plays big, if he does that then i would agree he is a 8-10 mil a year guy.
                    i agree in principal, but are you willing to lose him based on $2-3 mill a season knowing that Nicks style of play is wearing his body down?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
                      Attack this post/me all you would like, but....

                      Cruz! plays too small for me to warrant him a 8-10 mil a year contract, and what i mean by small is he really is scared of getting hit over the middle. Times i have watched him catch the ball and drop to the floor if he doesn't have a clear break away.
                      What i love about cruz, he is a smart route runner, great speed, can play all three wide out positions, great personality a true giant; classy.
                      I just don't think he plays big, if he does that then i would agree he is a 8-10 mil a year guy.
                      its tough for me bc i agree with that, but then i honestly think if i had to pick one wr who reminds me of jerry rice, id say itd be cruz. dont want to quantify that bc thats a diff topic altogether, point is, he can also be easily worth that money too.

                      he did get alligator arms sporadically, but then again, 86 catches, 1100 plus yards and 10 tds was it? after a 1500 yd season? i dunno, with the ability to go unstopped from the slot, he's a weapon we kinda need...i hope he gives us a break and drops to 6 mil with some sorta signing bonus that wont count towards the cap

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
                        Cruz could get $10 million a season from somebody.

                        i'll be absolutely stunned if his contract is $6-$7 million a season. STUNNED.

                        the 8-10 is an uneducated guess, but its based on multiple contracts for elite WRs in the NFL.

                        hard to argue that Cruz isn't an elite WR.

                        i've been saying this for 2 years, we can't pay both WRs in the 8-10 range, and our QB $20 a season, so whatever Cruz gets will largely cast the die of what the giants plan on doing with Nicks.

                        The thing Nicks has to worry about though is his injury history. He can put that to rest to some extent if he stays healthy for 16 games in 2013 but that's going to factor into his contract talks.

                        But, since we don't operate in a vacuum, suppose Randle catches fire in 2013. Having already signed Cruz (assuming), does Nicks become expendable over a certain dollar limit?
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                        • #27
                          Well, if Cruz sticks to his demand for $8 to $10 Million per season then he won't be a Giant in 2013.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                            its tough for me bc i agree with that, but then i honestly think if i had to pick one wr who reminds me of jerry rice, id say itd be cruz.dont want to quantify that bc thats a diff topic altogether, point is, he can also be easily worth that money too.he did get alligator arms sporadically, but then again, 86 catches, 1100 plus yards and 10 tds was it? after a 1500 yd season? i dunno, with the ability to go unstopped from the slot, he's a weapon we kinda need...i hope he gives us a break and drops to 6 mil with some sorta signing bonus that wont count towards the cap
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
                              i agree in principal, but are you willing to lose him based on $2-3 mill a season knowing that Nicks style of play is wearing his body down?
                              I would hate to lose him, but it's a little bit more than just that. We cannot keep tying up big contracts into single players, especially with this stringent cap we have. 2-3 mil might be the deciding factor in this, I have no idea what the fair amount to either party is. I am glad it is not my job

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                                whoa whoa..
                                lmao rudster..... stop it!

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