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  • ELI CAP HIT

    Am i reading this right his cap hit for the next 3 years is approx. $20,000,000.00 a year.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/eli-manning/
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  • #2
    Sounds right
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    • #3
      Yes, numerous restructures have inflated the back-end of his contract.
      Before you say "he isn't worth it!", check how much cap he accounted for during the 2011 season - $9.6 million. Was he "worth" that amount?

      Judge the worth of the entire contract, not how much of it counts per year. So far, $106 million has bought 1x Super Bowl. It still has three years left.

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      • #4
        He's worth every penny, he's a team player and has restructured his contract numberous times to get us under the cap or to sign players. I would not want him on any other team.

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        • #5
          lots of cash.......
          but its the Giants fault for how the pay scaling has gone. They have to deal with it
          "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
          You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
            Yes, numerous restructures have inflated the back-end of his contract.
            Before you say "he isn't worth it!", check how much cap he accounted for during the 2011 season - $9.6 million. Was he "worth" that amount?

            Judge the worth of the entire contract, not how much of it counts per year. So far, $106 million has bought 1x Super Bowl. It still has three years left.

            What?!? Look at the whole contract in context? What kind of nonsense is that?

            You sir are attempting to infringe on my right to free speech by asking this. What are you some kind of commie. comrade?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EnragedYouth85 View Post
              He's worth every penny, he's a team player and has restructured his contract numberous times to get us under the cap or to sign players. I would not want him on any other team.
              Why do people think restructuring is the player doing something nice? The team is converting a non guaranteed base salary to a guaranteed signing bonus.

              A restructure is absolutely to a players benefit

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              • #8
                Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                Why do people think restructuring is the player doing something nice? The team is converting a non guaranteed base salary to a guaranteed signing bonus.

                A restructure is absolutely to a players benefit
                thats why players do it.......it helps the team for a year and the player doesnt lose a dime and perhaps makes more $$ in the end.
                "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                  Why do people think restructuring is the player doing something nice? The team is converting a non guaranteed base salary to a guaranteed signing bonus.

                  A restructure is absolutely to a players benefit

                  Absolutely, I think it's because restructuring is usually done at the team's request. ut as many have pointed out, it's generally bad fiscal management from the team's POV.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    Why do people think restructuring is the player doing something nice? The team is converting a non guaranteed base salary to a guaranteed signing bonus.

                    A restructure is absolutely to a players benefit
                    In the long run it is the players benefit, I totally agree. But does it not help the team get under cap that current year?

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                    • #11
                      Interesting to see that 2012 is Eli's least compensated season.

                      But I am not buying that his performance was intentionally commensurate with his pay.

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                      • #12
                        we have 2 SBs. Even if we never win another one. It's worth it. He'll be ranked #2 behind Brady in salary cap hit starting next year. But hey, you do what you gotta do. Restructure again if you need to.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
                          we have 2 SBs. Even if we never win another one. It's worth it. He'll be ranked #2 behind Brady in salary cap hit starting next year. But hey, you do what you gotta do. Restructure again if you need to.
                          Just redo his contract all together and spread the money back out lol..

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by EnragedYouth85 View Post
                            In the long run it is the players benefit, I totally agree. But does it not help the team get under cap that current year?
                            Not in the long run. It converts it to a signing bonus that the player receives up front.

                            Teams do it to push back the cap hit, yes. But players aren't doing it to help the team.

                            If a player wanted to actually help the team they would redo their contract and make less money.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by EnragedYouth85 View Post
                              Just redo his contract all together and spread the money back out lol..
                              Well it's still a huge chunk of money. The thing to do would be to give him an extension. Then they can spread the cap hit out

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