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  • #16
    Cruz's situation is going to end up like Steve Smith's. I do not think the Giants will have enough space to give him a contract, and Reese believes that Randle, Barden, and Jernigan can develop for a cheap price. If Cruz gets the contract, do no expect Nicks to be a giant for long and do not expect to sign any big time free agents. Webster is not going to be cut and his contract is to big to restructure because it will keep us from locking up our young guys in the future. Osi and Benard will be gone. Beatty will get a solid contract and Boothe may be gone, I think Boothe will test the market.

    Reese needs to lock up Cruz long term and let his free agent busts play out there contracts until its a reasonable price to cut them. For a team that builds though the draft, its kind of silly that we are this tight against the cap, that shows that the GM does not know a thing about managing the cap. Its not like we make big free agent splashes, we paid to much for average guys in free agency and did to much restructuring that hurt us in the long run.
    " In Reese to Sign a Bust"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by drewz View Post
      Reese already said Tuck and Webster are playing for us next year
      Yes, and those of you who expect different results next year, get ready for another disappointment.

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      • #18
        looks like the team will shopping at WalMart this year for help due to the salary cap mess..

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tmurda1984 View Post
          Cruz's situation is going to end up like Steve Smith's. I do not think the Giants will have enough space to give him a contract, and Reese believes that Randle, Barden, and Jernigan can develop for a cheap price. If Cruz gets the contract, do no expect Nicks to be a giant for long and do not expect to sign any big time free agents. Webster is not going to be cut and his contract is to big to restructure because it will keep us from locking up our young guys in the future. Osi and Benard will be gone. Beatty will get a solid contract and Boothe may be gone, I think Boothe will test the market.

          Reese needs to lock up Cruz long term and let his free agent busts play out there contracts until its a reasonable price to cut them. For a team that builds though the draft, its kind of silly that we are this tight against the cap, that shows that the GM does not know a thing about managing the cap. Its not like we make big free agent splashes, we paid to much for average guys in free agency and did to much restructuring that hurt us in the long run.
          You're quite the negative nancy aren't ya. I think they will be able to sign Nicks and Cruz to deals. And Reese is a very good GM so stop ripping on him and let's see what he does... He did set us up to win 2 world championships

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          • #20
            Originally posted by gabriel_1 View Post
            I've seen in some websites and mock drafts about some possibilities of some players leaving. Players like Diehl and Osi I believe will go to FA this year. In some mock drafts I've seen even us drafting Eric Reid in case of Rolle leaving, because of his paycheck. Anyways I would just like to know who do you guys think who'll be gone and who'll be coming to out team.

            My important possible Releases:

            1. Osi
            2. Diehl
            3. Bradshaw
            4. Tuck
            5. Rolle
            6. Philips
            7. Webster

            Possible Signings:

            1. Vollmer
            2. Smith (Jags)
            3. Idonije
            4. Grimmes
            5 Durant

            Send your thoughts!
            Wouldn't mind seeing us pickup Jared Cook. This offense would get interesting if we introduced some 2 TE sets with him and Bennett.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by drewz View Post
              Reese already said Tuck and Webster are playing for us next year
              So our Defense will have no fire in it with lifeless leadership for one more year...Great!

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              • #22
                The poor fa's who helped us win superbowl 2011 - amazing.

                You have to overpay if you want the top guys on the market and rolle was that - and canty not far behind. Remember cc brown was there the year before. Are they overpaid - yes - were theyt poor signings not really.

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                • #23
                  The giants need to bring in some hungry guys. Id sign a bunch of low cost players to compeat for jobs
                  The Gigalo with the most below

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by dave56dj View Post
                    The poor fa's who helped us win superbowl 2011 - amazing.

                    You have to overpay if you want the top guys on the market and rolle was that - and canty not far behind. Remember cc brown was there the year before. Are they overpaid - yes - were theyt poor signings not really.
                    Canty has been hurt as much as he's been healthy and our play vs. the run has been pretty sorry. Please don't torture me with thoughts of CC BRown lol. Still, we can do better than CC with much less money. Look at Stevie Brown. There is no doubt you over pay in free agency for a quality guy. The question is does that limit your ability to field a complete team with what's left under the cap? We are much better off with RB's like Brown and safeties like Stevie Brown than overpaying in free agency.

                    How did Asanwhaaaah and Rogers Cromartie work out for Philly?
                    Lotta money for little return on the field.
                    No one remembers who came in second.

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                    • #25
                      look jomo i am not advocating big time spending like amsmoughah and heynsworth - i am saying those were huge needs and reese filled them and they worked very well for 11.

                      Now you really cant point out stevie brown - he is an exception not a rule. Those guys dont just turn up year to year although reese has an amazing knack for finding them.

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                      • #26
                        I remember thinking Stevie may not survive the final cut. Some people left him off their final 53
                        Football has been very, very good to us.
                        After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                        But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                        # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                        1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                        2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                        3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                        4-New York Giants!!!
                        5-NE
                        Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                        ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by dave56dj View Post
                          look jomo i am not advocating big time spending like amsmoughah and heynsworth - i am saying those were huge needs and reese filled them and they worked very well for 11.

                          Now you really cant point out stevie brown - he is an exception not a rule. Those guys dont just turn up year to year although reese has an amazing knack for finding them.
                          What I am saying is that value shopping is the way to win. I don't knock the occasionaly splurge like Rolle but at the end of the day, if that is the primary route we choose, we will come up short on money to build a Championship franchise.

                          We win with cheap players found deep in the draft (Bradshaw) or undrafted free agents (Cruz, Hixon etc). No one wins with a primary strategy to sign high priced elite free agents.

                          PS I don't think Stevie Brown is an exception. How about our LT Sean Locklear? We got him for a song. We might have paid $5M for a LT of comparable talent in free agency. We got him on the cheap.

                          I just think that you win championships by playing the value game and wrap that around a few key players; QB, pass rushers, LT, WR
                          No one remembers who came in second.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                            In my ideal world, the following would be gone:
                            Tuck
                            Osi
                            Diehl
                            Webster
                            Baas
                            Boothe

                            Only guy I'd think about signing through FA would be Michael Bennett if we can get him. Marty has already said he'd like to try and convince him to come to our team.

                            Spend significant amount of the draft on the O-line.
                            Why do you want Boothe gone? His versatility is very valuable.

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