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  • #16
    I had high hopes for him, than the season started. So much for the hopes!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by GameTime View Post
      I dont dislike the guy maybe he just needs another season.......
      I think that'd be too generous....IMO Blackburn is easily upgradable...Herz,great guy,great story, no room for him though...

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      • #18
        He is not slow. He overpursues and he is weak. He is not a middle linebacker. He has enough athleticism but does not use it well against the run and is frequently out of position. Most of all though he is not strong. He needs to get much stronger or he won't make it. He is also a weakside linebacker really. Or a Sam in our scheme but definitely not a middle linebacker who can hit holes hard. I don't know what the person who said he was a step slow was watching. If anything he was way too aggressive. He is right about the arm tackling though. Just horrid tackling which is the most important thing in a linebacker.

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        • #19
          herzlich should be gone next season,,it's just not there anymore.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BROADWAYSTORM View Post
            I don't know what the person who said he was a step slow was watching. If anything he was way too aggressive..
            What games were you watching? Herzlich not slow? Rewatch the games.

            And if you look at his pro day results you will see he ran a 4.96 40 yard dash on 3/23/11 and a 4.91 at the combine.

            A few MLB's 40 times at their pro day.

            Sean Lee 4.60
            Demeco Ryans 4.66
            Patrick Willis 4.37

            Still think he's not slow?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
              I'll save you the time - hes a young player still getting back to his form pre cancer.
              fixed. i aint giving up on herz either fwiw...i believe theres a chance he could be a solid player. he has the needed lateral movement to get into coverage, its just he often is in the wrong spot. he'll get there imo

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              • #22
                Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                lets put it this way...many think Chase Blackburn is below average...Herz has shown less then Chase....
                I'm glad I'm not the only one that has been seeing the same thing. We need someone new in the middle!

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                • #23
                  Patience with Herz, MLB is a hard position to play.. I think he can get the job done.
                  Stop Booing Tiki Barber.

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                  • #24
                    We need to bite the bullet and draft an early LB. Ogletree!

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                    • #25
                      I've said it in other threads but Herzlich is the second coming of Blackburn, athletically. Ultimately he is 4 years fresher than Blackburn but lacks the experience in comparison. He could be just as good of a starter as Blackburn but needs to see the field.

                      Despite that, giants need to upgrade.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                        fixed. i aint giving up on herz either fwiw...i believe theres a chance he could be a solid player. he has the needed lateral movement to get into coverage, its just he often is in the wrong spot. he'll get there imo
                        I hate this argument. You are predicting the guy have incredible advances in his athleticism. What have you seem to indicate that to be true?

                        The argument that he once had it so he will get it back is just nonsense. That's like saying if ray Lewis gives it time he can go back into being the 22 year old force he once was. It just doesn't work that way.

                        If herzlich now looked far more athletic than he did at the senior bowl or combine maybe you would have an argument. But he looks exactly the same. That was two years ago now.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                          I hate this argument. You are predicting the guy have incredible advances in his athleticism. What have you seem to indicate that to be true?

                          The argument that he once had it so he will get it back is just nonsense. That's like saying if ray Lewis gives it time he can go back into being the 22 year old force he once was. It just doesn't work that way.

                          If herzlich now looked far more athletic than he did at the senior bowl or combine maybe you would have an argument. But he looks exactly the same. That was two years ago now.
                          i can see u hate it but u attribute it incorrectly here. im not arguing that at all. im merely stating a legitimate claim. herz is still a young player trying to get back to form pre cancer. that doesnt mean he will or wont succeed. imo, i think he can get there but by no means am i pretending like its fact or that "he will have incredible advances..." musta sleep typed that bc i cant find where i claimed that anywhere.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                            lets put it this way...many think Chase Blackburn is below average
                            Which is ridiculous.

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                            • #29
                              Very simply, he doesn't appear to have fully recovered from the cancer that he suffered from.
                              He's an amazing kid, and seems to have tremendous desire, but he doesn't have the explosiveness and speed that he had his Junior year at BC when he was already projected to be a late 1st round pick.

                              It's really a shame. Cancer sucks.

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                              • #30
                                Herzlich stinks.

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