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  • Warning/ Stats and Gilbride.

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2013/1/9/...ve-coordinator

    Excerpt: "As we meander our way through reviews of the New York Giants much-too-short 2012 season we have come to the point where we discuss offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride. Which is a nice way of saying we have come to the post where Giants' fans unload all of their venom at Gilbride, the offensive coordinator many love to hate no matter what he does.

    Do the numbers support the venom? I have never believed that, and still don't. Gilbride is a far better offensive coordinator, I believe, than many are willing to give him credit for. He has called plays for two Super Bowl-winning teams and the Giants' offense, despite whatever short-comings it has, is always among the league's most prolific.

    Gilbride has been with the Giants since 2004 and has been calling plays for Eli Manning since the end of the 2006 season. Is his offense, or his message to his players, stale? When I spoke to Jim Sabo of Ourlads recently, he theorized that it might be.

    "There's something to be said for continuity, I believe in that. But, there's also a time when some of these guys start getting tuned out," Sabo said. "They've given ‘em all the speeches, they've given everything they've got and pretty soon they stop listening to ‘em. I don't know if that's the time for both Gilbride and [Perry] Fewell to move on. But there's something not right with either group."

    It is an interesting theory. It is one, however, that I am not buying. Yes, the Giants as a whole had some awful games in 2012. The Giants did, however, score 429 points -- second-most in franchise history behind the 448 scored by the 1963 Giants.From Team Rankings here are some of what I consider to be the most revealing numbers about the Giants' offense in 2012:

    Points Per Game -- 26.8 (5th)
    Points Per Play -- 0.443 (2nd)
    Touchdowns Per Game -- 2.9 (7th)
    Red Zone Scoring Attempts Per Game -- 3.9 (4th)
    Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TDs only) -- 54.84 percent (13th)
    Plays Per Game -- 60.5 (31st)
    Yards Per Play -- 5.9 (4th)
    Avg. Time Of Possession -- 29:10 (23rd)
    Third Down Conversion Percentage -- 40.62 percent (11th)
    Rushing Attempts Per Game -- 25.6 (23rd)
    Yards Per Rush Attempt -- 4.6 (7th)
    Rushing Play Percentage -- 42.25 percent (15th)
    Passing Yards Per Game -- 239.1 (12th)
    Yards Per Pass Attempt -- 7.1 (11th)
    Yards Per Completion -- 11.8 (4th)
    QB Sacked Percentage -- 3.58 percent (2nd)
    Average Team Passer Rating -- 87.2 (14th)
    " Read more...
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    • #3
      Same old every year ... Gilbride gets killed but the offensive numbers tend to be in the top third of the league.

      I wouldn't say the same thing for Fewell however.
      I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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      • #4
        Killdrive was really our DEFENSIVE coordinator? That explains why he didn't do **** for our offense...

        I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
          Same old every year ... Gilbride gets killed but the offensive numbers tend to be in the top third of the league.

          I wouldn't say the same thing for Fewell however.
          Fewell will likely be tomorrow's target
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
            Killdrive was really our DEFENSIVE coordinator? That explains why he didn't do **** for our offense...
            Picky, picky picky
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
              Fewell will likely be tomorrow's target

              Honest question ... if the Giants were one and done in the playoffs last year, would Fewell still have a job in 2013?

              I think he would have gone the way of Tim Lewis personally.

              Loves me my Lombardi ... but let's face it ... Fewell's tenure with the Giants is based on four games in three years.
              I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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              • #8
                I think these numbers are a little inflated... Eli is doing what he can to make the big plays that Killdrive always dials up work. If, as the article says, we mixed in some high-percentage plays and ran more no-huddle, we'd have an unstoppable offense...

                I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                  Fewell's tenure with the Giants is based on four games in three years.
                  The Packers and Niners games this season?
                  Last edited by Flip Empty; 01-09-2013, 08:22 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                    I think these numbers are a little inflated... Eli is doing what he can to make the big plays that Killdrive always dials up work. If, as the article says, we mixed in some high-percentage plays and ran more no-huddle, we'd have an unstoppable offense...
                    The numbers are inflated?
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                      I think these numbers are a little inflated... Eli is doing what he can to make the big plays that Killdrive always dials up work. If, as the article says, we mixed in some high-percentage plays and ran more no-huddle, we'd have an unstoppable offense...
                      They're inflated because they make rants against KG look stupid?

                      It must be a conspiracy.

                      P.S. - Eli can audible into a half dozen plays on any given down. We go long because that's what won us a SB last year.
                      I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                        Honest question ... if the Giants were one and done in the playoffs last year, would Fewell still have a job in 2013?

                        I think he would have gone the way of Tim Lewis personally.

                        Loves me my Lombardi ... but let's face it ... Fewell's tenure with the Giants is based on four games in three years.
                        When did they extend his contract?
                        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                          The Packers and Niners games this season?
                          Packers had injuries all over the place and one of the worst offensive lines in football.

                          The 49ers game was awesome, but let's face it ... not exactly a big play offense to worry about.
                          I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            When did they extend his contract?
                            Last year and from what I gather, will exercise his option for 2013.
                            I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                              Last year and from what I gather, will exercise his option for 2013.
                              So many defensive starters were MIA in 2012 they probably want to see how he does with some new/healthy talent in 2013. He's the same guy who ran rhe SB defense. I'd want to know if that was a fluke.
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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