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  • #16
    Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
    osi is no longer that guy as much as his mouth is. we have younger options on this team,,the money would be well spent on the O line if anything.
    sometimes sir, younger is not better. I think veterans placed in a system to properly utilizes their style of play can produce better results than a young inexperienced player that has raw talent. It's not just raw ability in the trenches, technique is more important.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
      No, I am pretty sure he's said that but if you like I can delete the post.
      No need Roa, I just want to know if everyone is accurate in their assesment of that situation. I don't think he's every said he deserves starter pay; i have heard him say he is a player that can start on any team, or something similar to that nature.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
        No need Roa, I just want to know if everyone is accurate in their assesment of that situation. I don't think he's every said he deserves starter pay; i have heard him say he is a player that can start on any team, or something similar to that nature.
        I am basing it on his comments that he's likely done here and what you accurately recall him having said about starting elsewhere. My interpretation of that is that he's going to ask for money Reese won't pay. However, I don't know he used those specific words so I did delete that.
        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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        • #19
          Originally posted by rainierjef View Post
          sometimes sir, younger is not better. I think veterans placed in a system to properly utilizes their style of play can produce better results than a young inexperienced player that has raw talent. It's not just raw ability in the trenches, technique is more important.
          I am guessing Tuck will be here. Based on their (Tuck and Osi) play in 2012, do we have any confidence they will be better a year later at their ages? Now if we got Tracy and Ojomo into a scheduled rotation, then fine IF they can afford Osi.

          You are right younger isn't always better but we have two young players who showed some glint of being able to play and I'd like to see them include them in the defense like the Eagles do/did. Doing that helps extend the older players and develops the younger players.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
            I am basing it on his comments that he's likely done here and what you accurately recall him having said about starting elsewhere. My interpretation of that is that he's going to ask for money Reese won't pay. However, I don't know he used those specific words so I did delete that.
            Yeah I hear you, and I am not attacking your assumption on the matter, but as you have seen time and time before on these boards. People read and react, before understanding what is read then reacting. It is unfair to any player especially Osi who has been the beating donkey on these boards for sometimes now to be misinterpreted I.E "Cruz is demanding 8-10 mil!?! screw that guy draft a WR or sign Bowe for cheap!"
            Because the mob is unforgiving and I think If we infact look at all the details all Osi is truly at fault for is carrying it on as long as he did in which he apologized for and has been humble in his role on the D-Line.

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            • #21
              How did Boothe become our second best O-lineman? We are screwwwwwwwwed. Boothe is average on his very best day, terrible most other times...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                I am guessing Tuck will be here. Based on their (Tuck and Osi) play in 2012, do we have any confidence they will be better a year later at their ages? Now if we got Tracy and Ojomo into a scheduled rotation, then fine IF they can afford Osi.

                You are right younger isn't always better but we have two young players who showed some glint of being able to play and I'd like to see them include them in the defense like the Eagles do/did. Doing that helps extend the older players and develops the younger players.
                See... I think Tuck has shot himself in the foot with; 1. with the soundbites he has provided 2. being a captain and showing a lack of urgency on the field or any type of leadership 3. I think he said he thought about retiring once this season? 4. his body language on the sidelines, not being vocally strong and plus his performance on the field.
                I agree with you, i would like to see more of Ojomo and Tracy, but If we can resign osi to a reasonable deal then i would like us to explore that option as well. I think it is fair to say that Osi thrives better as a starter than jsut coming in or certain down and distances or rotating, he can build a rythm this way. That's really what football is, repitition, rythm, technique, ability. I still feel he has what it takes to apply pressure to the QB, can he stop the run? lol i have a better chance of trucking J.J. Watt head on but that has really never been Osi's game and we have to understand that, plus that is also skewed cause just like Webster is looking for his over teh top help while Phillips is injured where is Osi's SAM linebacker help?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                  How did Boothe become our second best O-lineman? We are screwwwwwwwwed. Boothe is average on his very best day, terrible most other times...
                  lol... I think we should move boothe over to Center, I had an idea to revamp the O-Line i will post it in a second

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                    Here's my problem with Osi. We need to bring Tracy adn Ojomo into the rotation from day 1 in 2013. If signing Osi means one or both will ride the bench, I'm for losing Osi.
                    Putting way too much stock in the capabilities of an undrafted FA who barely made the team and couldn't get on the field, and a late round pick who hasn't shown much at all over the years he's been here. If we have to rely on Tracey and Ojom next year, we are seriously screwed.

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                    • #25
                      bunch of teams in the nfl are looking to upgrade on their o line.

                      this sucks.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                        Putting way too much stock in the capabilities of an undrafted FA who barely made the team and couldn't get on the field, and a late round pick who hasn't shown much at all over the years he's been here. If we have to rely on Tracey and Ojom next year, we are seriously screwed.
                        Tracy did play last season, Ojomo did not. My preference is for them to be in a scheduled rotation so they can develop.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
                          bunch of teams in the nfl are looking to upgrade on their o line.

                          this sucks.
                          I think we have to keep Beatty and I'd like to be able to keep Boothe, but offers will be forthcoming soon
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            I am basing it on his comments that he's likely done here and what you accurately recall him having said about starting elsewhere. My interpretation of that is that he's going to ask for money Reese won't pay. However, I don't know he used those specific words so I did delete that.
                            didnt he say he wanted top 10 de money? wasnt it even top 5 iirc? i know he believes hes a starter too, just not with us bc of our situation. hes been very vocal about that. im sure u can find a ton of articles from this past offseason where osi said stuff like that.edit-where hed start on any other team etc
                            Last edited by giantsfan420; 01-09-2013, 05:48 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                              Tracy did play last season, Ojomo did not. My preference is for them to be in a scheduled rotation so they can develop.
                              i thought tracy looked damn good vs SF and some other chances he got. i was actually very impressed, he looked 10x better than the year before

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                              • #30
                                I love it. The haters hijack a Kevin Boothe thread and make it about Osi...
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