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  • Five Giant Issues: Eli Manning

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/gia...es-eli-manning

    Excerpt: "There were plenty of things that went wrong in the New York Giants’ title defense in 2012.

    This week we are taking a look at five issues that kept the Giants from making it back to the playoffs one season after winning it all.

    We’ve already looked at the pass rush, Corey Webster’s struggles, missing intangibles andHakeem Nicks’ injuries. Today, we explore Eli Manning’s up and down season.


    The numbers: Manning completed 59.9 percent of his passes for 3,948 yards, 26 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. Manning had a streak of three consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 yards, 27 touchdowns and 61 percent completion rate snapped in 2012.

    The reasons: Manning set career-highs with 510 passing yards against Tampa Bay in Week 2 comeback win and five touchdowns against Philadelphia in the season finale. He also beat the Redskins in their first meeting with a 77-yard bomb to Victor Cruz for the win.

    The Giants offense put up 429 points, the second-highest in franchise history, and scored 47 touchdowns for the second straight season. But the offense disappeared for stretches and the Giants often had to settle for too many field goals -- they kicked 33 field goals, 14 more than they did in 2011.

    After having the best season of his career in 2011 with 4,933 yards and 29 touchdowns, Manning had 10 games in 2012 in which he threw for one touchdown or none at all.

    The franchise quarterback passed for 300 yards or more in a game only three times and none after Week 7, which is very surprising. And Manning had a rare three-game stretch from Weeks 8-10 in which he failed to throw for a touchdown at all.

    There were grumblings of a tired arm after seeing Manning go through the worst three-game stretch of his career since his rookie season. And when the Giants absolutely needed Manning at his best with a playoff spot on the line, Manning threw for a total of 311 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions in losses at Atlanta and Baltimore." Read more...
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    As bad as all these numbers are and as bad as the numbers are all over the team it's amazing they went 9-7.

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    • #3
      Hate how some stats are just thrown around without any context. Sure he had a 59.9 completion percent but what would that be if he took the same amount of sacks as Rodgers instead of throwing the ball away? or without any drops?
      And only passing for more than 300 yards 3 times? So what, he threw 5 TDs against the Eagle's and didn't break 300, must have been a bad game. Also when they have a good lead in the 4th Eli comes out of the game unlike Brees who's throwing bombs up by 20 with 2 minutes left.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by fizzlesticks View Post
        Hate how some stats are just thrown around without any context. Sure he had a 59.9 completion percent but what would that be if he took the same amount of sacks as Rodgers instead of throwing the ball away? or without any drops?
        And only passing for more than 300 yards 3 times? So what, he threw 5 TDs against the Eagle's and didn't break 300, must have been a bad game. Also when they have a good lead in the 4th Eli comes out of the game unlike Brees who's throwing bombs up by 20 with 2 minutes left.
        cant forget that nicks was playing hurt and not as effective most of the time

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        • #5
          Originally posted by fizzlesticks View Post
          Hate how some stats are just thrown around without any context. Sure he had a 59.9 completion percent but what would that be if he took the same amount of sacks as Rodgers instead of throwing the ball away? or without any drops?
          And only passing for more than 300 yards 3 times? So what, he threw 5 TDs against the Eagle's and didn't break 300, must have been a bad game. Also when they have a good lead in the 4th Eli comes out of the game unlike Brees who's throwing bombs up by 20 with 2 minutes left.
          Try not to look at it as a slam on Eli. The team dropped the ball, not Eli, not Diehl, not Gilbride, not Fewell., not Nicks, etc. Everyone has an opinion on what/who went wrong. This article is one of 5 written at ESPN giving their view of the situation.
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #6
            He had a bad year. He can rebound but stop making every excuse in the book for why he didn't play well this year.

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            • #7
              If Nicks isn't healthy next year and they still play him, then ownership needs to step in.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by EliDaMANning View Post
                If Nicks isn't healthy next year and they still play him, then ownership needs to step in.
                How far away from Reese and Coughlin do you think John Mara is? He lets them run their respective shops, as any good CEO does. But to think he's not in touch would be underestimating him.
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                  How far away from Reese and Coughlin do you think John Mara is? He lets them run their respective shops, as any good CEO does. But to think he's not in touch would be underestimating him.
                  Maybe it's just the coaches who decide to put Nicks in. If that's the case then Reese needs to step in and realize an injured Nicks is hurting the team.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EliDaMANning View Post
                    Maybe it's just the coaches who decide to put Nicks in. If that's the case then Reese needs to step in and realize an injured Nicks is hurting the team.
                    Reese, Coughlin, and Mara meet every Friday during the season to discuss the inactives. That's hard to do without talking about each player's condition.
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • #11
                      last year the Giants were 9-7 the same this season. Scored the same amount of points and TDs.
                      The biggest issue was red zone offense or lack there of. Also too mnay picks by Eli. I am not going to get into the debate of receiver or QB.
                      If that is a product of the read and react offense then some changes have to be made.
                      "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                      You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                        last year the Giants were 9-7 the same this season. Scored the same amount of points and TDs.
                        The biggest issue was red zone offense or lack there of. Also too mnay picks by Eli. I am not going to get into the debate of receiver or QB.
                        If that is a product of the read and react offense then some changes have to be made.
                        I think it's good that we didn't make the playoffs so the players understand you have to play for 60 minutes EVERY GAME
                        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          I think it's good that we didn't make the playoffs so the players understand you have to play for 60 minutes EVERY GAME
                          Bingo. While the SB is great, I think it kinda covered up some key holes in this team. Hopefully we address them all.
                          Mood: WOOF!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                            Bingo. While the SB is great, I think it kinda covered up some key holes in this team. Hopefully we address them all.
                            I'm glad to see players like Rolle and Blackburn venting about what could have been. Ultimately, it's the players that win or lose in the trenches. The hrader it is for them to comprehend, the less likely they are to make the same mistakes.
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • #15
                              Eli could not pull his 4th quarter comeback in at least two of the games and he had chances -- the Redskins and the Steelers games. The Eagles game, he was close but those two other games, he was stopped frustratingly so.

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