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  • #46
    Originally posted by Harooni View Post
    fans get confused , he didnt make less during 2011 season and he isnt making more this season, its the cap number (number that takes up cap space) Eli did and always got his $$$$
    It's not just Eli; the labor agreement prevents a players contract from just being erased.

    If you renegotiate within the term of the original agreement, this is what happens.
    If you extend, then the old money must go with the new contract with new money added.
    If you cut him, them guaranteed money still counts.
    Every single day I log onto this message board thinking i've seen it all, every single day I am wrong...NYGiants2120

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Harooni View Post
      yep cant do much about it. $15 sure is aq big chunk. i think he should have got 100mill 10 years like big ben. 10mill a season is more than fair. but what can we do
      Ben resigned for 8 years 102mil in 2008 loaded with "dont be stupid and ride without a helmet" type clauses laced throughout.

      Not bad for a quarterback who can end the team's season all by himself.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by JayMas9 View Post
        I really, really hope your not serious.
        About drafting a QB? Absolutely. Why not have a capable QB behind Eli? He is 32 and only getting older. He took a ton of shots this year. He wont last forever. If he goes down, we dont want a "Colts" type situation where we have nothing and no chance. Although it worked out for them the following year.
        Life is like a Giants game, you never know what you are going to get.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by SweetZombieJesus View Post
          Losing him will also cripple the team.
          Never said we should cut him. I was just wondering if another team would out pay us ($20.85M) for him. Just an open question. Obvisouly he is our QB for at least 3 more years.
          Life is like a Giants game, you never know what you are going to get.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
            About drafting a QB? Absolutely. Why not have a capable QB behind Eli? He is 32 and only getting older. He took a ton of shots this year. He wont last forever. If he goes down, we dont want a "Colts" type situation where we have nothing and no chance. Although it worked out for them the following year.
            Where will be find a quality QB who is willing to sit behind Eli for 3 - 5 years?
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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            • #51
              Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
              Where will be find a quality QB who is willing to sit behind Eli for 3 - 5 years?
              The draft? Look what the Packers did with Rodgers and Favre.

              You think the Giants extend his current contract another 2 years?
              Last edited by TheAnalyst; 01-11-2013, 03:21 PM.
              Life is like a Giants game, you never know what you are going to get.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                The draft? Look what the Packers did with Rodgers and Favre.
                Unfortunately that's not the norm.
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                  The draft? Look what the Packers did with Rodgers and Favre.

                  You think the Giants extend his current contract another 2 years?
                  It wasnt the Packs intent for Rodgers to sit that long.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                    The draft? Look what the Packers did with Rodgers and Favre.

                    You think the Giants extend his current contract another 2 years?
                    He doesn't become a FA until 2016. It will depend on how well he's playing. Whatever else we think about Eli, he is durable.
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Ruttiger711 View Post
                      It wasnt the Packs intent for Rodgers to sit that long.
                      Maybe not, but it happened. Pack also used a 1st round pick which we would not, but a later pick, why not? What about Kaepernick and Alex Smith, Tom Brady and Bledsoe,

                      Wouldnt it be nice to get a QB in the 3rd or 4th round and mold him behind Eli for a few years. Develop him.

                      Thats all Im saying.
                      Life is like a Giants game, you never know what you are going to get.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                        Maybe not, but it happened. Pack also used a 1st round pick which we would not, but a later pick, why not? What about Kaepernick and Alex Smith, Russell Wilson and Flynn, Tom Brady and Bledsoe,

                        Wouldnt it be nice to get a QB in the 3rd or 4th round and mold him behind Eli for a few years. Develop him.

                        Thats all Im saying.
                        And how does Eli react to that?
                        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          And how does Eli react to that?
                          Hopefully it would motivate him. I mean, if Eli played at an elite level for the next 3 years and we do extend him a bit more, then we could trade that drafted QB for a good draft pick. Good teams do this all the time. Packers trading Flynn, Pats trading Cassel, Eagles trading Kolb,
                          Life is like a Giants game, you never know what you are going to get.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                            Maybe not, but it happened. Pack also used a 1st round pick which we would not, but a later pick, why not? What about Kaepernick and Alex Smith, Tom Brady and Bledsoe,

                            Wouldnt it be nice to get a QB in the 3rd or 4th round and mold him behind Eli for a few years. Develop him.

                            Thats all Im saying.
                            With Alex's Smith's history was anyone surprised a QB was picked up?

                            Brady/Bledsoe? Sure lets pick up a *6th rounder and hope for the best, we may get lucky too.


                            Not saying eventually it wouldnt happen, but i think its at least 2 maybe 3 years away from being considered.

                            *edit - thought it was 7th

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                              Hopefully it would motivate him. I mean, if Eli played at an elite level for the next 3 years and we do extend him a bit more, then we could trade that drafted QB for a good draft pick. Good teams do this all the time. Packers trading Flynn, Pats trading Cassel, Eagles trading Kolb,
                              A 3rd round or 4th round pick will motivate Eli? Unless he goes down for a long stretch of games, I doubt Eli will be threatened with his job security in the next 3 years. Plus I think he's motivated enough. You don't win Super Bowls if you're not motivated. Sometimes you just fall short, just like any other 31 teams that will not win it every year.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by AllHailEli View Post
                                A 3rd round or 4th round pick will motivate Eli? Unless he goes down for a long stretch of games, I doubt Eli will be threatened with his job security in the next 3 years. Plus I think he's motivated enough. You don't win Super Bowls if you're not motivated. Sometimes you just fall short, just like any other 31 teams that will not win it every year.
                                Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick, ect... recent picks rounds 2-4 that would def put some heat on Eli. Not that he needs motivation, maybe I stated that wrong, but someone behind him that gives us a shot to win if he goes down.

                                And I never said a draft pick would take Eli's starting job as long as he is here. Eli is the man right now. But 20+Mil is quite expesive and will cripple the team the next few years. Cruz or Nicks will be gone. Cant keep both. Phillips may be gone. We need to resign JPP soon. And Joseph.

                                We are always floating around that point where we can't get a FA becaus we need to be tight. It wont be any differet this season. Reese will hopefully produce a talented team for less.
                                Last edited by TheAnalyst; 01-11-2013, 03:57 PM.
                                Life is like a Giants game, you never know what you are going to get.

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