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  • #46
    Originally posted by WinterIsComing View Post
    If we can sign KP back and then pick up a second round pick for Stevie Brown, I think that is a move that would make alot of sense for us. Having an additional second round draft pick this year will greatly help replacing talent that we are sure to lose with so many free agents and help us lower costs by paying a rookie contract. Stevie is a good player, but we already have Rolle under contract, between Rolle and KP how many safties do we need?

    The Giants are excellent in the draft, they should be leveraging that skill and acquiring as many draft picks whenever possible.
    I just thank my own personal god that you don't make personnel decisions for the Giants!
    Your "two steps forward to take 3 steps back" approach to roster moves is equal parts scary and ludicrous.
    "I'M ALL FOR IT!"

    John McKay, HC of the 1976 winless TB Buccaneers, when asked by a reporter, how McKay felt, about the execution of his offense.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by NYFG View Post
      As have other teams, but Reese is one of if not the best in the biz when it comes to the draft.
      I'm starting to doubt that. He seems to have a knack for picking up injury prone guys

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      • #48
        If you keep Brown you are pretty solid at Safety, even if you can't sign back KP (although with his knees that may not be as hard as we think). However, I don't really see how you'll get a team to give up a 2nd rounder for Brown.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by JesseJames View Post
          he's only been with us one season and proved he can make plays and almost led the league in INTs. what else does he need to do..
          Have similar numbers next year, learn to tackle, not get beat as often. 1 good year is a fluke, 2 good years is a coincidence, 3 good years is proven.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by NYFG View Post
            Have similar numbers next year, learn to tackle, not get beat as often. 1 good year is a fluke, 2 good years is a coincidence, 3 good years is proven.
            You better go tell the rest of the world that. RGIII is apparently HOF bound already.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by NYFG View Post
              Have similar numbers next year, learn to tackle, not get beat as often. 1 good year is a fluke, 2 good years is a coincidence, 3 good years is proven.
              "learn to tackle and not get beat as often" you just described our entire secondary..

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              • #52
                I think getting rid of KP would be a mistake, but maybe not. I'm still really excited about Will Hill though I think he's got all of the tools to be incredible in our secondary. If Brown can duplicate what he did last season we are in good shape. Kenny Phillips goes unnoticed alot but he's hands down our best safty.
                Last edited by ALLnygIN; 01-12-2013, 10:22 PM.
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                • #53
                  There's no way in hell we should trade Stevie Brown, a guy who had 7 INTS this year, for a second round pick. KP's had injury issues, and it may be better to let him walk. Also, with Rolle and Hill, we'd have 3 safeties who are capable.

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                  • #54
                    KP is expendible IMO. His injury concerns are far too much risk. I know he has strong supporters on GMB.

                    BTW, NOBODY is going to give us a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick for Stevie Brown.

                    Draft picks are the only players that are cap-friendly. That's why we keep duds that we draft for WAYYY too long.

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                    • #55
                      I have to think you're going to pay a second round pick about as much as it would take to sign Brown, and in the Coughlin system, the #2 will be sitting on the bench for two- four years. Brown only has one good season behind him, so he can't really stake a claim for huge bucks. You gotta love how the ball just seems to find it's way to Brown's hands. It would be great if that trend continues; but there's no guarantee.

                      KP is really questionable signing. His injury history doesn't make him worth a big contract. We'll have to see how those negotiations go.

                      Don't discount the ability that Will Hill has. If we sign either\or Brown\Phillips we've still got Hill to be either the number 2 or 3 safety. Getting Hill on the field fulltime isn't going to hurt this team at all.

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                      • #56
                        KP is the best safety the Giants have. In the games he played, the defense looked SO MUCH better than games without him. He can cover consistently, tackle and ballhawk whereas Stevie can only ballhawk.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by BlueReign View Post
                          KP is the best safety the Giants have. In the games he played, the defense looked SO MUCH better than games without him. He can cover consistently, tackle and ballhawk whereas Stevie can only ballhawk.
                          I hear ya, but the fact that we have so much basis for comparison (with vs. without KP) tells me he's not worth the kind of money other teams with more cap space and need for a safety will pay. I wish him well, and I hope he gets what he's looking for.

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                          • #58
                            I definitely think we should not trade Stevie Brown at all. We keep him and watch him prove that he can play here. Does anyone know about Terrell Thomas? I hope he can play with us, I love watching him play.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by JesseJames View Post
                              "learn to tackle and not get beat as often" you just described our entire secondary..
                              Antrelle Rolle is probably the best tackler on this team and KP rarely gets beat over the top.

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                              • #60
                                i think the secondary plays better when KP is in the game but he's always hurt. which is why they should let him go
                                Last edited by bigbluenepa; 01-13-2013, 03:11 PM.

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