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  • #46
    Originally posted by ShakeandBake View Post
    This is the first year in his career that he has been really banged up, outside of this year the guy misses 2 games/yr on average which is most certainly not in the "injury prone" realm
    didnt say he was,,,,but his performance next year,,as said in my post,,will determine a lot.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
      didnt say he was,,,,but his performance next year,,as said in my post,,will determine a lot.
      Then what does "he just can't stay healthy" mean? Of course next year will determine a lot, its the last year in his contract.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
        did you happen to see him in the playoffs last year? your logic makes no sense,,so I am assuming you flip the script next year if he comes back ballin?
        Ya I also seen him this year and he looked slow

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        • #49
          Originally posted by G14ntzF4π View Post
          Ya I also seen him this year and he looked slow
          Looked (was) injured

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Giantsfan241 View Post
            Yes I do not think he will give the same level of play when he hits the big cash
            really.....why??
            "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
            You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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            • #51
              Originally posted by G14ntzF4π View Post
              Ya I also seen him this year and he looked slow
              Unlike when we have a broken foot and a knee injury, athletes baby themselves
              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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              • #52
                Just curious here , something thats done in English soccer alot with bigger player contracts . say a guy is looking for a 3yr/ 30 million dollar contract the team will offer 25 Mil and then the rest will be made up by incentives within the media like jersey sales and other sponsorship deals(commercials, clothing ,shoes ect) i was wondering if they NFL does things like this because i recall Cruz being in the Campell's commercial and foot locker commercial. Could something like this be done with cruz's contract?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by MattyD21 View Post
                  Just curious here , something thats done in English soccer alot with bigger player contracts . say a guy is looking for a 3yr/ 30 million dollar contract the team will offer 25 Mil and then the rest will be made up by incentives within the media like jersey sales and other sponsorship deals(commercials, clothing ,shoes ect) i was wondering if they NFL does things like this because i recall Cruz being in the Campell's commercial and foot locker commercial. Could something like this be done with cruz's contract?
                  Nope, endorsements are independent of a player's team contract.

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                  • #54
                    I like Cruz a lot, and I really hope they can reach an agreement that benefits both him and the team. However, this is a business and in any business you have to look at the Cost/Benefit or the ROI. There is a price point where the cost to keep him starts to negatively impact the team as a whole by preventing them from securing players at other positions of need. As much as I would like to see Cruz on the team next year, I believe that improving the O-line and the defensive front 7 will have a bigger impact on the team as a whole than Cruz alone will. Hopefully they can do both...
                    My goal had been to win a championship, work toward the Hall of Fame, have my jersey retired by the team and I`d go in as a lifelong New York Giant, but I`m now resigned to the fact that this won`t happen. -- Michael Strahan, just when you think you're down...

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                    • #55
                      Wow. Really glad a lot of you are nowhere near our F.O. Let's lock up Cruz and Nicks both if we can. They are both fantastic and have been nothing but ideal examples of what a NYG should be. Humble. Hard Working. Unselfish. Team oriented. What of their past behavior could indicate anything but being standup men on and off the field? It boggles my mind that this sort of speculation is even happening.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                        I would tink this is more likely
                        I know I'm a few pages behind, but I just got to work so sue me. I'm not sure Cruz will put up a 1500 yard season again. I think alot of what happened in the 2011 season was a product of the lockout and defenses were still catching up near the end of the season to some of the most prolific offensive stats the NFL has ever seen(namely a bunch of 5000 yard passers). That being said, the Cruz of 2012, minus the drops, still had an outstanding season and was an integral part of our offense.

                        I think many fans were spoiled in 2011. Cruz coupled with a healthy Nicks and now (possibly) Bennett could be a dangerous combination for years to come. Hell, even if Bennett doesn't stay the tandem of Cruz and Nicks is enough tom put some fear into a defensive coordinator.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by G14ntzF4π View Post
                          Based on his health he looks used up and slow
                          Nicks is 25, yet you think he's done?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                            Nicks is 25, yet you think he's done?
                            LOL, 25 is the new 30, haven't you heard?
                            My goal had been to win a championship, work toward the Hall of Fame, have my jersey retired by the team and I`d go in as a lifelong New York Giant, but I`m now resigned to the fact that this won`t happen. -- Michael Strahan, just when you think you're down...

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Rat_bastich View Post
                              I know I'm a few pages behind, but I just got to work so sue me. I'm not sure Cruz will put up a 1500 yard season again. I think alot of what happened in the 2011 season was a product of the lockout and defenses were still catching up near the end of the season to some of the most prolific offensive stats the NFL has ever seen(namely a bunch of 5000 yard passers). That being said, the Cruz of 2012, minus the drops, still had an outstanding season and was an integral part of our offense.

                              I think many fans were spoiled in 2011. Cruz coupled with a healthy Nicks and now (possibly) Bennett could be a dangerous combination for years to come. Hell, even if Bennett doesn't stay the tandem of Cruz and Nicks is enough tom put some fear into a defensive coordinator.
                              Let's just hope we keep Bennett and Cruz this season and take care of Nicks next season
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Giantsfan241 View Post
                                We have RR and JJ and I think they will be suitable replacments for Cruz, and based on he didnt even hit the payload this year but knowing he will already dropped his level of play considerably what do you think will happen when hes getting 6m a year. And also doing "da rock" stuff with jay z and his clothing brands and whatever else hes doing... his image is too big for his play now.
                                Still can't get over this comment. This is laughable...

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