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  • #76
    Originally posted by Rat_bastich View Post
    Nicks and Cruz definitely, Bennett is important as we haven't been able to keep a tight end for any length of time. I think if it came down to it though, Bennett would probably be the odd man out since we have had productive tight ends come out of the wood work before and the Giants probably think they could develop another one.

    I would love to keep all three together especially since we have bigger fish to fry in the trenches and almost everywhere else.
    Rememeber, Nicks isn't a FA until 2014 so we could do Bennett and Cruz, hopefully
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    • #77
      Originally posted by ELI_Iz_God View Post
      Bigger question is...Can he justify Big money? Yeah he was great last season...this season he had 7 games with 50 yards or less. As far as I'm concerned we can set up a mediocre contract for him now...then next season he can prove he is big money worthy.

      Just because you helped us win a SB your first season doesn't give you a free pass to stink it up half of the next season and still retain your "NFL Value"
      How did he "stink it up" by adding another 1,000 yard season to the 1,500 the previous season and leading all receivers again? You might have a point if the rest of the offense was clicking but we all know that wasn't the case.

      Should we take some of Eli's money because he did some stinking up of his own? How many games with ZERO TDs?
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • #78
        Originally posted by DandyDon View Post
        In my in-expert opinion of Cruz and the Gints management, I will be amazed if Cruz is not a giant for at least the next 3 years.Nicks is different thing. Sad how he was 1 or 2 steps slow all year. I want to believe he will recover, but $$ realities makes me think he will not be a Giant next year.
        Rest easy - he's a Giant next year.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Ruttiger711 View Post
          Rest easy - he's a Giant next year.
          We're going to hold you to that
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #80
            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
            How did he "stink it up" by adding another 1,000 yard season to the 1,500 the previous season and leading all receivers again? You might have a point if the rest of the offense was clicking but we all know that wasn't the case.

            Should we take some of Eli's money because he did some stinking up of his own? How many games with ZERO TDs?

            Cruz's best game was against Tampa....oh but wait a minute he was paired up with Nicks who had an even better game. If Nicks wasn't playing that day then Cruz probably wouldn't of even broke 100 yards and probably doesn't get his 1000 yard season.

            I'm not saying he does not deserve Big money Ever....but let's face it he dropped way too many passes this year and frankly did not look like the same player a year ago. That raises question marks.

            This season makes me believe that Cruz is only "Great" when he is paired up with Nicks...by himself he is a "Good" receiver. I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks this.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by dakotajoe View Post
              If Santonio Holmes is worth 8-9 million a year, how much is Cruz worth? Holmes best season of his career was arguably worse than Cruz's season this year in which people think he under performed.
              To Holmes' credit, he DID have Sanchez throwing him the ball...

              I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by ELI_Iz_God View Post
                Cruz's best game was against Tampa....oh but wait a minute he was paired up with Nicks who had an even better game. If Nicks wasn't playing that day then Cruz probably wouldn't of even broke 100 yards and probably doesn't get his 1000 yard season.
                What kind of an argument is this? One game defines his season?

                How about the three touchdowns Cruz scored on Cleveland? Or the 109/1 outing vs Philadelphia? Nicks missed those two games.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by ELI_Iz_God View Post
                  Cruz's best game was against Tampa....oh but wait a minute he was paired up with Nicks who had an even better game. If Nicks wasn't playing that day then Cruz probably wouldn't of even broke 100 yards and probably doesn't get his 1000 yard season.

                  I'm not saying he does not deserve Big money Ever....but let's face it he dropped way too many passes this year and frankly did not look like the same player a year ago. That raises question marks.

                  This season makes me believe that Cruz is only "Great" when he is paired up with Nicks...by himself he is a "Good" receiver. I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks this.

                  Well, if we don't make him an offer commensurate with his skills, even if you can't see them, then he'll be wearing a different uniform in 2013. Teams will offer him a lot of money to play for them. If you're suggesting Reese will get a second chance next year, you'd be wrong. Back to back 1,000+ yard seasons, leading receiver in both of those seasons, Pro Bowl invitation.

                  As for your passes dropped argument, Eli overthew/underthrew a lot of passes and made some terrible decisions. What do we do about that?

                  All receivers drop passes and with all the passes Cruz dropped, he still went over the 1,000 yard mark.
                  “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                  • #84
                    The players with the most dropped pass in 2012 were Jimmy Graham with 13, and Cruz, Brandon Marshall, Demariyus Thomas and Calvin Johnson with 10.

                    Bums, the lot of them.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                      The players with the most dropped pass in 2012 were Jimmy Graham with 13, and Cruz, Brandon Marshall, Demariyus Thomas and Calvin Johnson with 10.

                      Bums, the lot of them.
                      Ship them all to the CFL
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                        What kind of an argument is this? One game defines his season?

                        How about the three touchdowns Cruz scored on Cleveland? Or the 109/1 outing vs Philadelphia? Nicks missed those two games.
                        Scoring 3 touchdowns on the browns? ...yeah a lot of people scored on the browns this year...lets not even try to make that game special.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          We're going to hold you to that
                          Pretty sure he was concerned about Nicks being in blue next year - that's about as confident as I can get .

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ELI_Iz_God View Post
                            Scoring 3 touchdowns on the browns? ...yeah a lot of people scored on the browns this year...lets not even try to make that game special.
                            The Bucs had the worst pass defense in the league - why bring that game up, then?

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Ruttiger711 View Post
                              Pretty sure he was concerned about Nicks being in blue next year - that's about as confident as I can get .
                              We're going to have a better 2013
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                              • #90
                                Cruz did not have a top 5 wr season this year.. end of story.

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