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  • #76
    86, not even a close second.

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    • #77
      Just my opinion.

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      • #78
        ​2009..whoever disagrees with me is an idiot!

        Mood: WOOF!

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Rich4114 View Post
          That's what I was going to say. Other than the Browns game that year this team dominated until the Plax shooting.
          Agreed. I have no doubt we would've repeated had Plax not shot himself.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Giantsfan241 View Post
            I said if Flacco wins a sb with the ravens now they're team would be better than the 2000 ravens team.
            This is wrong. it's really that simple.

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            • #81
              The 2007 and 2011 teams were great in the post-season and played out of their minds to win the Super Bowls but I can't say either of them was the best team, 2011 esp was not. They just made the most of the opportunity and that's really was the most amazing thing. In terms of satisfaction level, these last two were off the charts. The 2008 Super Bowl is the best Super Bowl of all time. You can't be more underdog than that going against a team on their way to perfection, and the way it all ended with an escape and a helmet catch, the script couldn't be more perfect.

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              • #82
                The Parcell's era Giants were probably some of the best. They were gritty and tough. There was no finesse to them and the defense was something to be feared. The offense was made up of blue collar guys as well. You didn't have receivers like you have now, but you had Bavaro and guys that could get you a few yards after the bruising running game softened up opposing defenses. The 86' and 90' Giants were just hard nosed and the better teams that I have ever seen.

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                • #83
                  1986. Lost the season opener, and only lost one more time all year. Rolled in the play-offs.....only one competitive half in the play-offs. Best quote....In the divisional play-off game against SF, won by the Giants 49-3, Jerry Rice dropped a pass very early in the game that probably would have gone for a TD. When LT was asked if that would have made a difference in the game, he responded, "Yes, it would have been 49-10".

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                  • #84
                    i started watching the giants when i was around 6 now at that time i didnt know nearly enough about football like i do now...but even at 8 years old...watching them in 86 i could tell you they were dominate and the best team the giants ever had...followed by the 90 team..infact heres my order of best giants teams from my era 84 to present..sbs or not
                    1.86
                    2.90
                    3.08
                    4.89
                    5.07
                    6.11

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                    • #85
                      the 08 team..should have won it all...i have no doubt we wouldve beat the steelers like a drum in the sb cause we manhandled them and the cardinals in both games we played in that season..the schedule was brutal that year also, just like this years was and we flat out crushed teams with ease, other than the damn browns lol what a joke that game was..lol anyways nobody could stop the rushing attack of the giants..nobody..rmbr 300yds against a good carolina team..it was crazy..we also blew out the ravens and made them look old with that running game

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                      • #86
                        89 is another one of those teams that should have won..damn flipper anderson!

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
                          So are the 2000 Ravens the best Raven team ever because of Trent Dilfer?
                          Nice one!
                          Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                          http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by gmen46 View Post
                            Fun topic, although a very subjective one. Not the "86 team, not even close" conclusion that some would have us believe.

                            Some here confuse "best Giants team" with best Giants season, in my view. Understandable, since it can be argued that each season produces a unique team, but that's just one way to look at the question.

                            When the subject of the Niners of the 80s, for example, or the Steelers, Cowboys, Dolphins, Raiders of the 70s, is raised, it inevitably is discussed in terms of a team's general dominance during a sequence of several seasons, not just 1 season. I mean, do we really hear arguments about "the 81 Niners were their best team, not the 89 Niners"? No. Nearly every discussion concerning the Niners dominant years involve useage of "the Walsh Niners" or the Montana Niners". It is a legitimate way to approach this thread's title question, as well.

                            In that context, there is a compelling argument to be made for the Giants teams of the late 50s, early 60s as the "best Giants team".

                            During an 8 year stretch of 1956-63, Giants played in 6 Championship games. They won only 1 of those, true, but how many teams in the history of the league can boast that consistency over that many years? It is an elite club, to be sure.

                            With at least 5 HOF players on some of, if not all 6 of, the Giants teams in that stretch (Gifford, Huff, Rosey Brown, YA, Robustelli), plus the likes of Alex Webster, Charlie Conerly, Grier, Rote, Morrison, and with Landry-Lombardi doing the actual coaching of the first 2-3 championship teams, I submit there's a strong case to be made for that time frame as the "best Giants team, all time"

                            If you want to restrict the debate to only the Super Bowl era, then sure, we are restricted to a much narrower time frame of a single season here and there.

                            And even in that context there are different qualifiers in each of our Super Bowl-winning seasons that make this a very subjective argument---

                            86 team was arguably the most dominant team that year. However, even in the comparison of 86 to 90, it could be argued the 90 team was a better team overall, since 2 crucial players (Jumbo Elliott and Carl Banks) missed 8 and 7 games, respectively, due to injuries, and Simms missed the last 2 and a half games of the reg season and all the post season. We won the last 2 reg season games, 2 post season games and the Super Bowl with a professional back up QB, who was an average QB at best.

                            That could not have been accomplished unless the team was very, very good.

                            So, while there is no question the 86 Giants finished the second half of the regular season by steam-rolling through the competition with 10-11 consecutive wins, and they crushed their opponents throughout the post season culminating in a dominant second half of their Super Bowl victory, I'd say what the players and coaches achieved on the 90 team (they were absolutely dominant the first 10 games of that season, remember) after Simms went down for the season in Game 14, was even more impressive--defeating a very dominant Niners team intent on being the first (only) team to win 3 consecutive SBs, in the NFC Championship game, and defeating the most explosive team in NFL history up to that point, in the Super Bowl.

                            (Anyone who claims they actually believed the Giants hopes for a second SB trophy were not completely crushed when Simms broke his leg in that Dec '90 Buffalo game...is not being honest)
                            Great try, but no. Best SB era Giants team are the '86 Giants. Take a look at the two rosters. The Bills were a better team than us in '90. If San Fran doesn't fumble we don't even get in the SB in '90. We then went on to win a very close SB. In '86 we whipped ***** the entire way.
                            Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                            http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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