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  • NY Giants' Positional Review: Quarterback

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2013/1/13...ing-david-carr

    Excerpt: "We have reviewed the New York Giants coaching staff, including head coach Tom Coughlin and coordinators Kevin Gilbrideand Perry Fewell. Let's turn our attention today to positional reviews. We will start with quarterback.

    Eli Manning
    -- Let's just acknowledge what everybody knows already -- the 2012 season was not Manning's best work.

    The 59.9 percent completion rate was the first time in five seasons Manning finished a season below 60 percent completions. The yardage was nearly 1,000 yards shy of 2011 and the first time in four years he finished below 4,000 passing yards.
    There has been much talk about how much Hakeem Nicks' knee injury impacted the Giants' passing offense. That, however, does not excuse some of the poor decisions made by Manning in 2012 -- none worse than the decision to throw a deep ball to Ramses Barden at the end of the Week 4 game against the Philadelphia Eagles. If you really want to break it down, this could well be the single play that kept the Giants out of the playoffs. Thanks to NFL Game Pass and All-22 film here are a couple of screenshots from that ill-fated play." Read more...
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    That was a boneheaded play, one of many by Eli and company. If I'm not mistaken we didn't see very much of Ramses after that

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    • #3
      Originally posted by thegreatone View Post
      That was a boneheaded play, one of many by Eli and company. If I'm not mistaken we didn't see very much of Ramses after that
      Barden did what he had to do to prevent an interception.
      Last edited by RoanokeFan; 01-13-2013, 02:17 PM.
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
        Barden did what he had to do to prevent an interception.
        +1.
        Last edited by RoanokeFan; 01-13-2013, 02:17 PM.
        Reese, gone. Check! Bench McAdoo Doo, gone. Check! Let's Giants 2018.

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        • #5
          Eli needs to pick out his horse. It's almost time to ride off into the sunset. If it wasn't for Tyree's circus catch and Manninghams haul in down the sideline Eli's stature would be far less than it is now. There would be no rings on his finger and he would be glowing in mediocrity.This past year he played like crap. He throws a wobbly ball, he stares down his targets, he forces throws into double coverage, he doesn't find the open guy, he looks like a total loser and a sulking baby when things go wrong, he has no escape ability and the speed of an old lady. He has the same response time after time when he plays a bad game and comes off as a dufuss.This past season is a great example of his many short comings. Eli got outplayed this season by rookies. We need to get a guy on the roster that can challenge for the job.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shockeystays08 View Post
            Eli needs to pick out his horse. It's almost time to ride off into the sunset. If it wasn't for Tyree's circus catch and Manninghams haul in down the sideline Eli's stature would be far less than it is now. There would be no rings on his finger and he would be glowing in mediocrity.This past year he played like crap. He throws a wobbly ball, he stares down his targets, he forces throws into double coverage, he doesn't find the open guy, he looks like a total loser and a sulking baby when things go wrong, he has no escape ability and the speed of an old lady. He has the same response time after time when he plays a bad game and comes off as a dufuss.This past season is a great example of his many short comings. Eli got outplayed this season by rookies. We need to get a guy on the roster that can challenge for the job.
            Wow, it's not even worth arguing with you.
            #80

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shockeystays08 View Post
              Eli needs to pick out his horse. It's almost time to ride off into the sunset. If it wasn't for Tyree's circus catch and Manninghams haul in down the sideline Eli's stature would be far less than it is now. There would be no rings on his finger and he would be glowing in mediocrity.This past year he played like crap. He throws a wobbly ball, he stares down his targets, he forces throws into double coverage, he doesn't find the open guy, he looks like a total loser and a sulking baby when things go wrong, he has no escape ability and the speed of an old lady. He has the same response time after time when he plays a bad game and comes off as a dufuss.This past season is a great example of his many short comings. Eli got outplayed this season by rookies. We need to get a guy on the roster that can challenge for the job.
              Okay, so you're not his biggest fan, but there is no denying the guy was great in 2011, and he did what was needed in 2007 which helped bring two trophies to the Meadowlands.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
                Wow, it's not even worth arguing with you.
                Obviously, just check the user name.

                sincerely,
                OverratedMediocreTightEnd08

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shockeystays08 View Post
                  Eli needs to pick out his horse. It's almost time to ride off into the sunset. If it wasn't for Tyree's circus catch and Manninghams haul in down the sideline Eli's stature would be far less than it is now. There would be no rings on his finger and he would be glowing in mediocrity.This past year he played like crap. He throws a wobbly ball, he stares down his targets, he forces throws into double coverage, he doesn't find the open guy, he looks like a total loser and a sulking baby when things go wrong, he has no escape ability and the speed of an old lady. He has the same response time after time when he plays a bad game and comes off as a dufuss.This past season is a great example of his many short comings. Eli got outplayed this season by rookies. We need to get a guy on the roster that can challenge for the job.
                  You can not even debate with someone who calls themselves ShockeyStays08. Ridiculous post.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                    Barden did what he had to do to prevent an interception.
                    Yes he did.

                    I am betting Eli comes back with a force this coming season. If he is the Eli we know and love he will.

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                    • #11
                      he can be better...of course.
                      He even says it him self all the itme
                      However you veiw the the two SB wins is each person's individual perspective.
                      All I know is Eli was the QB.....and thats good enough for me......
                      "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                      You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                        http://www.bigblueview.com/2013/1/13...ing-david-carr

                        Excerpt: "We have reviewed the New York Giants coaching staff, including head coach Tom Coughlin and coordinators Kevin Gilbrideand Perry Fewell. Let's turn our attention today to positional reviews. We will start with quarterback.

                        Eli Manning
                        -- Let's just acknowledge what everybody knows already -- the 2012 season was not Manning's best work.

                        The 59.9 percent completion rate was the first time in five seasons Manning finished a season below 60 percent completions. The yardage was nearly 1,000 yards shy of 2011 and the first time in four years he finished below 4,000 passing yards.
                        There has been much talk about how much Hakeem Nicks' knee injury impacted the Giants' passing offense. That, however, does not excuse some of the poor decisions made by Manning in 2012 -- none worse than the decision to throw a deep ball to Ramses Barden at the end of the Week 4 game against the Philadelphia Eagles. If you really want to break it down, this could well be the single play that kept the Giants out of the playoffs. Thanks to NFL Game Pass and All-22 film here are a couple of screenshots from that ill-fated play." Read more...
                        This is definitely on of my biggest criticisms of Eli. He often disregards game situations and makes throws that are highly inappropriate. (ie..throwing deep on third and short, throwing to covered WR's when all we need is a few more yards to kick a game winning FG).
                        This play demonstrates a loss to an inferior team, that better decision making by our QB would have prevented.
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          This is definitely on of my biggest criticisms of Eli. He often disregards game situations and makes throws that are highly inappropriate. (ie..throwing deep on third and short, throwing to covered WR's when all we need is a few more yards to kick a game winning FG).
                          This play demonstrates a loss to an inferior team, that better decision making by our QB would have prevented.
                          I don't like to ever say a game is won/lost on one play. But that particular game was lost because Eli made the wrong decision and put the ball he chose to throw to the wrong shoulder resulting in Barden having to mug the defender to prevent an interception. We were taken out of field goal range and the rest is history.

                          All of that being said, Eli didn't lose the season.
                          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            I don't like to ever say a game is won/lost on one play. But that particular game was lost because Eli made the wrong decision and put the ball he chose to throw to the wrong shoulder resulting in Barden having to mug the defender to prevent an interception. We were taken out of field goal range and the rest is history.

                            All of that being said, Eli didn't lose the season.
                            I never believe that a player loses us any game. A thousand different plays happen during a game by every player on the field that effect the outcome.
                            But at crunch time I want my QB to understand the game situation and make the proper decisions that maximize our chances to win the game.
                            In this case, Eli failed in that responsibility. Now he makes plenty of good plays too...don't get me wrong, but this was not outside the norm for Eli, especially this season.
                            He made a lot of throws this year that did not address the game situation, and down and distance. Its not a lack of intelligence as I'm sure if he had time to consider the options, he would make better decisions. Its a lack of discipline on the filed to make snap decisions that have to be made in miliseconds.
                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                              I never believe that a player loses us any game. A thousand different plays happen during a game by every player on the field that effect the outcome.
                              But at crunch time I want my QB to understand the game situation and make the proper decisions that maximize our chances to win the game.
                              In this case, Eli failed in that responsibility. Now he makes plenty of good plays too...don't get me wrong, but this was not outside the norm for Eli, especially this season.
                              He made a lot of throws this year that did not address the game situation, and down and distance. Its not a lack of intelligence as I'm sure if he had time to consider the options, he would make better decisions. Its a lack of discipline on the filed to make snap decisions that have to be made in miliseconds.
                              I'm counting on last season being an anomaly for Eli and he will get back to making good decisions consistently.
                              Last edited by RoanokeFan; 01-14-2013, 10:21 AM.
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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