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  • Originally posted by yo-ho View Post
    Bill Belinchick is what he is because he coaches in a division where he is guaranteed six wins every season, and he has Tom Brady. Without those two factors he would have a very different win loss record.
    we play in a division where the division champ wouldn't even qualify for a wild card.
    and there are only 6 division games anyway....
    due to the fact that I am from the Woodstock generation ...
    my opinions may be chemically enhanced and influenced by severe episodes of memory loss

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    • Originally posted by stormblue View Post
      i never mentioned "the catch".....which i agree was less than stellar....has nothing to do
      with the plays i was referring to.
      the plays i pointed out were one time 99% lucky plays that ain't never gonna happen again ....
      and impossible to coach against....and before you go cultist on me...i saw them too ....
      and they were both chuck-n-duck prayers....and we all know it.
      without those 2 miracles (MM and Tyree) ...we don't get those rings....period...
      and Belichick and Brady have a couple more.
      and neither play is a testament to Coughlin's coaching genius nor Belichick's lack of it.

      "the catch" was just a decent ending to a great game winning drive....nothing lucky or special about it....
      and has nothing whatsoever to do with what i was talking about.
      There was nothing miraculous about the MM play. Nor was it a chuck and duck. It was a perfect pass into a very tight window. The play design made the safety on MMs side cheat a half step or two inside, which was all that was needed. That catch was also the start of that drive, not the ending of it.

      The Tyree catch was a bit of luck. Eli didn't throw his best pass. Had it been a little lower or a little faster in getting there then Tyree wouldn't have had to catch it on his helmet.

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      • Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
        I think some of us old schoolers get how much the Giants meant to Belichick, and how much what you see today is a reflection of what he learned under the Giants organization.....his success is a positive reflection on the Giants, in my opinion.

        He's one of the main reasons why Parcells was successful.....don't get me wrong, I loved Parcells, but with Belichick, he had a guy that pretty much could figure out a gameplan in the week prior to the game, and then another gameplan at halftime if needed.

        Nobody made adjustments like Belichick.....maybe that's why I'm so rough on the coordinators we have, because we had a HOF staff with Parcells, Coughlin, and Belichick. Really sick when you think about it.
        absolutely

        Parcells made Belichick........but in some very important aspects Belichick made Parcells

        as for Landry and Lombardi

        Landry was not about to turn down the Dallas job

        and Lombardi actually tried to get out of his contract with Green Bay when he got wind that Jim Lee Howell was leaving but could not

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        • Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
          and Lombardi actually tried to get out of his contract with Green Bay when he got wind that Jim Lee Howell was leaving but could not
          Damn, imagine what it would have been like had we had Lombardi as our HC all those years...

          I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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          • Originally posted by yo-ho View Post
            Bill Belinchick is what he is because he coaches in a division where he is guaranteed six wins every season, and he has Tom Brady. Without those two factors he would have a very different win loss record.
            One could say the same about Bill Walsh -- he was in the terribly weak NFC West and had Joe Montana.

            That doesn't diminish how great he was.

            Bill Belichick has gotten his team to FIVE Super Bowls and won three of them.
            8-Time NFL Champions - 1927 1934 1938 1956 1986 1990 2007 2011

            "You win close games because you're prepared to do it. It doesn't just come down to luck." -- Bill Parcells

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            • Originally posted by SweetZombieJesus View Post
              One could say the same about Bill Walsh -- he was in the terribly weak NFC West and had Joe Montana.

              That doesn't diminish how great he was.

              Bill Belichick has gotten his team to FIVE Super Bowls and won three of them.
              and the two he lost were to Tom Coughlin. It clearly shows, when a team can limit Tom Brady.. Bill is all of a sudden very human.
              #80

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              • Imagine if we had Lovie Smith ( now that he is available) instead of Fewell

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                • Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                  Damn, imagine what it would have been like had we had Lombardi as our HC all those years...
                  Vince wanted that job more than anything in the world

                  that was his team

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                  • lmao MS, "the pass was underthrown" (sb 46 pass to MM). wow. that may have been the greatest pass in SB history, perhaps NFL history. that was an absolute frozen rope that had to actually gain speed as it traveled to beat NE's safety. It was a 50 yd bullet on a dime that couldnt have been placed as well were you to hand it to MM. He stuck out his hands and the ball fell right into his fingers/hand.


                    lmao. the fact u could misrepresent that play in the way you did is proof of something, what, i have no idea lol.

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                    • Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                      lmao MS, "the pass was underthrown" (sb 46 pass to MM). wow. that may have been the greatest pass in SB history, perhaps NFL history. that was an absolute frozen rope that had to actually gain speed as it traveled to beat NE's safety. It was a 50 yd bullet on a dime that couldnt have been placed as well were you to hand it to MM. He stuck out his hands and the ball fell right into his fingers/hand.


                      lmao. the fact u could misrepresent that play in the way you did is proof of something, what, i have no idea lol.
                      I cant even lie. Besides the tyree grab, thats probably the best throw and catch ive ever seen
                      Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

                      ~Big Mike~

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                      • Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
                        and the two he lost were to Tom Coughlin. It clearly shows, when a team can limit Tom Brady.. Bill is all of a sudden very human.
                        ONLY the Giants have been able to defeat him that way.

                        Also the only other team to win 3 Super Bowls in 4 years is the 92-95 Cowboys. Lombardi didn't do it, the Steelers didn't do it, the 49ers didn't do it.
                        Last edited by SweetZombieJesus; 01-16-2013, 05:16 AM.
                        8-Time NFL Champions - 1927 1934 1938 1956 1986 1990 2007 2011

                        "You win close games because you're prepared to do it. It doesn't just come down to luck." -- Bill Parcells

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                        • Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                          lmao MS, "the pass was underthrown" (sb 46 pass to MM). wow. that may have been the greatest pass in SB history, perhaps NFL history. that was an absolute frozen rope that had to actually gain speed as it traveled to beat NE's safety. It was a 50 yd bullet on a dime that couldnt have been placed as well were you to hand it to MM. He stuck out his hands and the ball fell right into his fingers/hand.


                          lmao. the fact u could misrepresent that play in the way you did is proof of something, what, i have no idea lol.
                          There isn't a more delusional poster on these boards than MS

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                          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XSgZzHSts0

                            This guy is actually saying if Eli hit him in stride he could've broken free for TD? I don't even know what to say about this...

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                            • Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
                              I cant even lie. Besides the tyree grab, thats probably the best throw and catch ive ever seen
                              The pass to MM in SuperBowl XLVI was a perfect throw. Now, this is the point I do use in the discussions we have about Aaron Rodgers and Eli Manning. Ok, after this past season and what he did to take his team to the playoffs I really can’t debate that Aaron Rodgers is not better than Eli Manning, he is. However, I have never seen Aaron Rodgers make a throw like the one Eli Manning made to MM in SuperBowl XLVI. That is what I mean when I state that “Eli Manning has made throws that Aaron Rodgers hasn’t. It doesn’t mean that I think Eli has a stronger arm. No. Aaron Rodgers has one of the strongest arms in NFL and Eli Manning doesn’t. It simply means that I have never seen Aaron Rodgers make that perfect of a throw like the one Eli Manning did to MM. Does that help to clear up any confusion or assumptions from the previous disscussions we have had on the subject? Please realize I am not trying tpo be condesending.

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                              • Originally posted by MikeyMike01 View Post
                                Winning the Super Bowl does not change the fact that almost all of the other seasons were horrible.
                                On the flip side. The horrible seasons donít take away the fact that we won 2 Superbowls in 5 years.

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