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  • #46
    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Barden needs to be released. He's never been able to prevent younger players from climbing over him in rotation. Jernigan will be next
    I disagree. If we can get him on the cheap, then I would take him back.
    Lets go, Giants!

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    • #47
      Originally posted by nycisgreat View Post
      I disagree. If we can get him on the cheap, then I would take him back.
      Agreed, I wouldn't mind him back. He's not a spectacular receiver but when we used him he produced. His height is certainly an advantage and could be used to exploit certain situations.

      His production declined after a stellar game against Carolina because Hixon returned. Hixon didn't play against Carolina but he did the next week against the Eagles where he got 11 targets.

      I feel like we could have used him in the redzone this year. He showed that he could elevate against Carolina and catch the ball very high. Instead the majority of the fades were thrown to Nicks when he could barely jump...Needless to say Tynes was our MVP for at least portion of the season.
      Last edited by dakotajoe; 01-15-2013, 11:09 PM.
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      • #48
        I'd keep Barden and move him to TE. He's 6'6 227. Have him gain 20 pounds with some muscle and he'll be a mismatch for defenses. Aaron Hernandez of the Pats is 6'1 245 pounds. The Pats are successful because they take cast-offs and put them in positions to shine. Before letting Barden walk, try him at TE with 20 pounds added and see what you have. What do you have to lose? Sign him to a non-guarenteed contract and see what you got.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by CruznNicks View Post
          I'd keep Barden and move him to TE. He's 6'6 227. Have him gain 20 pounds with some muscle and he'll be a mismatch for defenses. Aaron Hernandez of the Pats is 6'1 245 pounds. The Pats are successful because they take cast-offs and put them in positions to shine. Before letting Barden walk, try him at TE with 20 pounds added and see what you have. What do you have to lose? Sign him to a non-guarenteed contract and see what you got.
          The problem with your analysis is Aaron Hernandez is actually a good receiver, Barden isn't. If you put Hernandez as a receiver he would outperform Barden by a lot

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          • #50
            Originally posted by CruznNicks View Post
            I'd keep Barden and move him to TE. He's 6'6 227. Have him gain 20 pounds with some muscle and he'll be a mismatch for defenses. Aaron Hernandez of the Pats is 6'1 245 pounds. The Pats are successful because they take cast-offs and put them in positions to shine. Before letting Barden walk, try him at TE with 20 pounds added and see what you have. What do you have to lose? Sign him to a non-guarenteed contract and see what you got.
            Have you watched him try to block?
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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            • #51
              Originally posted by nycisgreat View Post
              I disagree. If we can get him on the cheap, then I would take him back.
              To do what? He's just not that good.
              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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              • #52
                We can find an equally talented WR just as cheap and actually plays special teams. Let him go..

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                • #53
                  sucks.. I was really excited when NY drafted Barden..... and Beckum looking like 2 busts now

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
                    sucks.. I was really excited when NY drafted Barden..... and Beckum looking like 2 busts now
                    It happens and we move on.
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • #55
                      I dont' get why he didn't get more playing time, myself.. Hes made some plays for us , but seems to rarley be out there, and the carolina game meant nothing, becuase he barley seen the field after that.. He made a nice downfield catch against the eagles the following week, and that was basically it?

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                      • #56
                        Of course he'd love to sign with the Giants. They are the ones who overlooked the fact that he was too soft to contribute on special teams and too soft to use that huge frame to his advantage in the passing game (but he sure is tall).

                        He showed good hands when he got them on the ball but was muscled around by much smaller corner backs. He played way too small for such a tall guy. We can do better in a backup WR.
                        No one remembers who came in second.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by CruznNicks View Post
                          I'd keep Barden and move him to TE. He's 6'6 227. Have him gain 20 pounds with some muscle and he'll be a mismatch for defenses. Aaron Hernandez of the Pats is 6'1 245 pounds. The Pats are successful because they take cast-offs and put them in positions to shine. Before letting Barden walk, try him at TE with 20 pounds added and see what you have. What do you have to lose? Sign him to a non-guarenteed contract and see what you got.
                          He doesn't have the stones to engage on special teams now. An additional 20 pounds isn't going to turn him into a gnarly TE.
                          No one remembers who came in second.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by jomo View Post
                            Of course he'd love to sign with the Giants. They are the ones who overlooked the fact that he was too soft to contribute on special teams and too soft to use that huge frame to his advantage in the passing game (but he sure is tall).

                            He showed good hands when he got them on the ball but was muscled around by much smaller corner backs. He played way too small for such a tall guy. We can do better in a backup WR.
                            In fact, we are doing better
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
                              I dont' get why he didn't get more playing time, myself.. Hes made some plays for us , but seems to rarley be out there, and the carolina game meant nothing, becuase he barley seen the field after that.. He made a nice downfield catch against the eagles the following week, and that was basically it?
                              He had a couple of catches in the Cinci game too, but I think that was all.

                              I cant say he "sucks" because you have to actually be on the field to do so. He's not on the field because the coaches felt they had 2 better receivers available for the #3 position in Hixon and Randle and eventually Jernigan.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Ruttiger711 View Post
                                He had a couple of catches in the Cinci game too, but I think that was all.

                                I cant say he "sucks" because you have to actually be on the field to do so. He's not on the field because the coaches felt they had 2 better receivers available for the #3 position in Hixon and Randle and eventually Jernigan.
                                I would agree that "sucks" is a bit strong but if you are going to be a #4 or #5 WR for us you need to be a demon on ST and he is just too soft for that.
                                No one remembers who came in second.

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