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  • Originally posted by Delicreep View Post
    Most recent example? You attempted to pass off an irrelvent Tebow stat, and and when I called you on it, you literally and hilariously said a friend told you it was true.
    No more so than reading an article that states random facts also. Unless, you actually spend the time and background check every fact that is spit out these days, we are all guilty of it. It so happens that I trust that person who told me the "fact". And because i couldnt' find it doing a google search, doesn't make it untrue. It is what it is.

    When it comes to Tebow, those folks do their homework. I'll take their word everytime.

    Edit: And really, i could have just told you I knew it to be fact. But, I assumed you would be able to take the fact that I "assumed" maybe incorrectly, as an honest mistake. And not something i needed to use to further my point. Heck, I could have used any of those Tebow records contained in that link.
    Last edited by gumby74; 01-24-2013, 05:16 PM.
    http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

    Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
      Maybe you can refresh my memory.....
      Why is it your view that I think all QB's are the same?

      BTW...... you get big time style points from me for a creative post
      Comrade Morehead,

      I don't see how you have any choice.

      The second you say that not all QB's are the same and that they are in fact capable of great individual performances, then you have lost this kerfuffle.
      Every single day I log onto this message board thinking i've seen it all, every single day I am wrong...NYGiants2120

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      • Originally posted by Delicreep View Post
        Most recent example? You attempted to pass off an irrelvent Tebow stat, and and when I called you on it, you literally and hilariously said a friend told you it was true.
        Yes but Good 'Ol Morehead did no such thing.
        And it IS easier to move the ball when you need a TD. Teams are willing to trade yards for seconds much more easily when they know you need a TD than need to get into FG range. Quite honestly, that's a no brainer my tovarich. (Oops!!!! ........... I mean my friend)
        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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        • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
          No more so than reading an article that states random facts also. Unless, you actually spend the time and background check every fact that is spit out these days, we are all guilty of it. It so happens that I trust that person who told me the "fact". And because i couldnt' find it doing a google search, doesn't make it untrue. It is what it is.

          When it comes to Tebow, those folks do their homework. I'll take their word everytime.
          You will take their word for it every time despite me pointing out how it didn't even come close to resembling a fact?

          Kinda pointless engaging you, wouldn't you say?
          Every single day I log onto this message board thinking i've seen it all, every single day I am wrong...NYGiants2120

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          • Originally posted by Delicreep View Post
            Comrade Morehead,

            I don't see how you have any choice.

            The second you say that not all QB's are the same and that they are in fact capable of great individual performances, then you have lost this kerfuffle.
            You do not get to use the word "kerfuffle" in such a frivolous way.
            No one in their right mind would suggest that players aren't capable of great individual performances. What I would say is that objective stats are a inaccurate way to measure those performances. Since they are effected so much by so many other factors. (Game conditions, defense, quality of WR's, O line etc......)
            AND.......
            the point of performance is to win games. the stats obtained are not (in my view) accomplishments by themselves.
            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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            • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
              No more so than reading an article that states random facts also. Unless, you actually spend the time and background check every fact that is spit out these days, we are all guilty of it. It so happens that I trust that person who told me the "fact". And because i couldnt' find it doing a google search, doesn't make it untrue. It is what it is.

              When it comes to Tebow, those folks do their homework. I'll take their word everytime.

              Edit: And really, i could have just told you I knew it to be fact. But, I assumed you would be able to take the fact that I "assumed" maybe incorrectly, as an honest mistake. And not something i needed to use to further my point. Heck, I could have used any of those Tebow records contained in that link.
              Originally posted by Delicreep View Post
              You will take their word for it every time despite me pointing out how it didn't even come close to resembling a fact?

              Kinda pointless engaging you, wouldn't you say?
              Huh? I mean as in if they say something, I will assume that it is in fact true, unless proven otherwise. You haven't shown me that the thing I said about Tebow was untrue. You merely asked me if I knew for sure.

              And, I edited my original post. I really was giving you the benefit of the doubt in that you would take things the correct way.
              Last edited by gumby74; 01-24-2013, 05:21 PM.
              http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
              http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
              http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

              Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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              • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                Yes but Good 'Ol Morehead did no such thing.
                And it IS easier to move the ball when you need a TD. Teams are willing to trade yards for seconds much more easily when they know you need a TD than need to get into FG range. Quite honestly, that's a no brainer my tovarich. (Oops!!!! ........... I mean my friend)
                Comrade Morehead,

                They are willing to trade some yards, not all 88 in one shot. When you get close, the other team tightens; it takes more time and effort to get to that point with a TD.

                Still easier to score a FG than a TD; probably why they count for different number of points.

                And you are no Gumby: the Eli thing is like a religion to him.
                Every single day I log onto this message board thinking i've seen it all, every single day I am wrong...NYGiants2120

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                • Originally posted by Delicreep View Post
                  Comrade Morehead,

                  They are willing to trade some yards, not all 88 in one shot. When you get close, the other team tightens; it takes more time and effort to get to that point with a TD.

                  Still easier to score a FG than a TD; probably why they count for different number of points.

                  And you are no Gumby: the Eli thing is like a religion to him.
                  Absolutely. Like a moth to a flame.
                  http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
                  http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
                  http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

                  Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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                  • Originally posted by Delicreep View Post
                    Comrade Morehead,

                    They are willing to trade some yards, not all 88 in one shot. When you get close, the other team tightens; it takes more time and effort to get to that point with a TD.

                    Still easier to score a FG than a TD; probably why they count for different number of points.

                    And you are no Gumby: the Eli thing is like a religion to him.
                    They do but its easier to get down there. Then when you have Plaxico to leave Ellis Hobbs' jock strap at the goal line for an easy TD pass, we have our victory. (Oh yeah, that blitz pickup by BJ was awesome as well)
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
                      Replace Sanchez with Peyton and it will be even longer. The problem is that posting Peyton is better than Eli is something that most people already know and accept. Mention Flacco however, and Eli fan boys will begin to seethe.
                      It must be so easy to scoff at a 2-time Super Bowl MVP knowing that before him Dave Brown and Danny Kanell brought 5 Super Bowls between them to the Giants. How the heck can you surpass those glory days? Don't you miss the celebration of being able to throw snowballs on the field like the good old days to show our appreciation to the team? Forget Canyon of Heroes and ticker tape parades, throwing snowballs was classic.

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                      • Originally posted by AllHailEli View Post
                        It must be so easy to scoff at a 2-time Super Bowl MVP knowing that before him Dave Brown and Danny Kanell brought 5 Super Bowls between them to the Giants. How the heck can you surpass those glory days? Don't you miss the celebration of being able to throw snowballs on the field like the good old days to show our appreciation to the team? Forget Canyon of Heroes and ticker tape parades, throwing snowballs was classic.
                        Do I sense a bit of sarcasm in your tone?
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          They do but its easier to get down there. Then when you have Plaxico to leave Ellis Hobbs' jock strap at the goal line for an easy TD pass, we have our victory. (Oh yeah, that blitz pickup by BJ was awesome as well)
                          yeah ur right. that gw drive in sb 42 was totally easy bc we needed a td lol wowza's...

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                          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                            Do I sense a bit of sarcasm in your tone?
                            You meant to say this is not the alternate universe? Cuz it sure feels like a twilight zone. I could have sworn we have 9 or 10 Super Bowls mostly won in the 90s that's why he can scoff at a QB with only two Super Bowl MVPs.

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                            • Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
                              yeah ur right. that gw drive in sb 42 was totally easy bc we needed a td lol wowza's...
                              and by comparison, in sb 46, when a fg would have won it, you're right it was a much much more difficult drive...i dunno how bradshaw even got in the endzone with NE defending the field much more tightly...

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                              • but all kidding aside, i have to believe the % of converting on a gw FG is much higher than the % of converting a needed TD to win...

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