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  • Chris Ault Says Eli Manning Could Run The Pistol Offense

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2013/1/22...rt-griffin-iii

    Excerpt: "Chris Ault, architect of the pistol offense employed by the San Francisco 49ers, Washington Redskins, Seattle Seahawks and others, says a team without a running quarterback can still use many of the concepts.

    Could the New York Giants run some of the newly-popular -- and wildly successful -- pistol offense, even with the slow-footed Eli Manning at quarterback? Chris Ault, architect of the pistol, told NFL.com on Tuesday that teams with non-running quarterbacks -- like the Giants -- can certainly implement parts of the pistol running attack.

    "They could run the pistol formation," Ault said Tuesday on 'NFL AM.' "They don't need to run the read part of it. When we first put the pistol in, in 2005 and 2006 (at Nevada), that's all we ran. We ran the power, the gaps, the counters, the zones, the outside stuff. We did not run the read at that time. So, the pistol offense, the most important thing there, is you can run any offense you've been running. And this is how we created it, and then we advanced the pistol run game -- the read part of it -- two years later." Read more...


    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    Defenses would be scared of our offense if Eli used the pistol.


    “Basically just stay with your man,” cornerback Janoris Jenkins said. “Follow him everywhere you go. Even if he goes to the bathroom, follow him.”

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    • #3
      pistol offense? Gilbride says no

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      • #4
        I wouldn't have a problem with us adding some pistol into our gameplan. It seems like a very versatile formation.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
          pistol offense? Gilbride says no
          Except that we've already used it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BeatYale View Post
            Defenses would be scared of our offense if Eli used the pistol.
            You don't need to run the read option out of the pistol. It seems like it'd actually lend itself to our Power O running schemes.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cloud57 View Post
              pistol offense? Gilbride says no
              If he did say no, it was because Eli is hardly a threat to run. The Defense needs to figure out the pistol and stop it cold. Offense needs to stay healthy and do the gameplan that got two SBs.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Drez View Post
                Except that we've already used it.
                Yes the Giants ran some pistol this season.

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                • #9
                  I feel like we will use a pistol-draw, over and over.
                  The Problem is the Oline, PERIOD

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Old Giant View Post
                    If he did say no, it was because Eli is hardly a threat to run. The Defense needs to figure out the pistol and stop it cold. Offense needs to stay healthy and do the gameplan that got two SBs.
                    You don't need to have running QB to run the Pistol. The formation essentially moves the mesh point between the RB and QB deeper in the backfield opening up more cutback lanes for the RB.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ozzie0075 View Post
                      You don't need to have running QB to run the Pistol. The formation essentially moves the mesh point between the RB and QB deeper in the backfield opening up more cutback lanes for the RB.
                      If you don't need a mobile QB, as the article suggests, is it just a coincidence the teams mentioned in the article all have one?
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                        If you don't need a mobile QB, as the article suggests, don't the teams mentioned in the article all have one?
                        The formation tends to work better with a mobile QB because you can use the zone read. Without a mobile QB when you run the ball you are getting your RB the ball deeper in the backfield and giving him more time to find running lanes. Case and point the Giants did use some Pistol this season and college teams like Syracuse use the formation extensively without a mobile QB.

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                        • #13
                          i forget whic poster, maybe gmen0820, he was talking about this and how hed like to see us use more of the pistol formation...

                          people need to realize that part of the pistol formation thats actually good for immobile qbs, is that they are already halfway into their drop back by getting the ball in like a half shotgun snap. It kinda adds fractions of a second to the time a qb has to read the defense...and its also effective with running plays and PA's...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ozzie0075 View Post
                            The formation tends to work better with a mobile QB because you can use the zone read. Without a mobile QB when you run the ball you are getting your RB the ball deeper in the backfield and giving him more time to find running lanes. Case and point the Giants did use some Pistol this season and college teams like Syracuse use the formation extensively without a mobile QB.
                            I am just thinking ahead to the "first attempt" that fails and see how long it takes for the "Gilbride Sucks" threads to start lol

                            When I see RG III run those options with three or four players involved I just can't see the Giants pulling that off, as an example. I'm all for whatever works, but sometimes you just don't have the personnel to make some plays work.
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • #15
                              Stick with the run and shoot.

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