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Giants' Justin Tuck Vows To Return To All Pro Level In 2012

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  • #76
    i like Tuck and all but he might be fooling himself thinking he will get back to pro bowl status!

    i mean hes getting older and i doubt he can get up to that level again!

    i am rooting for him and hope he makes it!
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    • #77
      Originally posted by ImElectric2 View Post
      I tend to, and in this case really want to agree, but I don't know that you can discount the fact that he was equally as big a reason we missed the playoffs this year. It took brilliant coaching to motivate him back to par the end of last year which may well indicate that his ability it still there. He also showed flashes here and there this year. If its strictly motivation/drive then I can see him.coming out strong again. If its that PLUS a drop off in talent due to age than I fear our stable is quite thinner than we expected it would be at this point.
      I really can't disagree with you....2012 was just poor. 2011 was similar, until a late season surge.

      2013 is really a pivotal year for him.....the team really can't afford another down year from him.

      About the only things I can say in this defense are:

      2 Time Super Bowl Champ....he has shown up in big games.
      We've seen what he can do...when he is at the top of his game, he's among the best in the business.
      He's got great character....granted, he can get a little mopey, but he's not a locker room cancer, or an off-field embarrassment.
      He recognizes the urgent need to return to form.

      Based mainly on the fact that he's performed at a high level in the past, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt in 2013.....HOWEVER, I want to see guys like Ojomo push Tuck hard in the preseason.....Tuck should have to fight to keep his starting status.
      "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

      "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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      • #78
        Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
        Ha ha . . . my entire argument is that you can't judge a guy's effort by simply looking at his performance on tv. Thanks for the laugh!
        Because body language isn't visible.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by BigBlue1971 View Post
          i like Tuck and all but he might be fooling himself thinking he will get back to pro bowl status!

          i mean hes getting older and i doubt he can get up to that level again!

          i am rooting for him and hope he makes it!
          He just does not seem like he has the fire to get back to that level.
          In fact his moods seem to range from nonchalant to down right mopey.....

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          • #80
            Originally posted by BlueReign View Post
            Because body language isn't visible.
            Please explain what body language you saw from Tuck on TV that confirmed that he wasn't giving 100% effort on the field. Specific examples are welcomed.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
              Please explain what body language you saw from Tuck on TV that confirmed that he wasn't giving 100% effort on the field. Specific examples are welcomed.
              Giving up on plays (So obvious), most of the time he was on the sidelines sulking. Shaking his head. In his interviews, came off as careless. Just wasnt emptionally there this year.
              Mood: WOOF!

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              • #82
                Never saw him give up on a play. Now seeing him not make a play, yes.

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                • #84
                  Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                  Giving up on plays (So obvious), most of the time he was on the sidelines sulking. Shaking his head. In his interviews, came off as careless. Just wasnt emptionally there this year.
                  Sorry, never saw him once give up on a play all year. Can you provide specific examples? Maybe I just missed it.

                  Sulking and shaking his head . . . is that really unusual for a guy who feels like he isn't performing up to his usual standards? Would you rather have him smiling and laughing in interviews after he hasn't performed?
                  Last edited by TCHOF; 01-24-2013, 09:50 AM.

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                  • #85
                    Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                    Sorry, never saw him once give up on a play all year. Can you provide specific examples? Maybe I just missed it.Sulking and shaking his head . . . is that really unusual for a guy who feels like he isn't performing up to his usual standards? Would you rather have him smiling and laughing in interviews after he hasn't performed?
                    I would rather him 1.) Give someone else a chance to play if he's hurt/Not feeling well 2.) Stop talking about bouncing back and actually get healthy and do so.
                    Mood: WOOF!

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                    • #86
                      Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                      I would rather him 1.) Give someone else a chance to play if he's hurt/Not feeling well 2.) Stop talking about bouncing back and actually get healthy and do so.
                      What if that someone else (I assume that you are referring to Ojomo and/or Tracey) couldn't match even Tuck's depleted production?

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                      • #87
                        Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                        What if that someone else (I assume that you are referring to Ojomo and/or Tracey) couldn't match even Tuck's depleted production?
                        How would you know that for sure?
                        Mood: WOOF!

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                        • #88
                          Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                          What if that someone else (I assume that you are referring to Ojomo and/or Tracey) couldn't match even Tuck's depleted production?
                          At least you'll get someone with fire in their belly. Tuck, whether it be to injuries or other factors, just doesn't seem to have that fire he possessed 3-4 years ago. He appears complacent to me and many,many others not including yourself obviously. I am grateful that he helped bring home 2 Lombardi's, and yes, I believe he deserves the benefit of the doubt for that reason alone, I'm just saying what I saw which can be interpreted differently by you and I. He will never say he isn't able to get the job done anymore, no player would, and I'm not asking for him to say that. Just show some life, that's all.

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                          • #89
                            Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                            How would you know that for sure?
                            Only the coaching staff would really know and common sense would dictate that someone of Tracy's size is just not a good fit for a large amount of snaps on the DL. Ojomo might just be too raw or perhaps he isn't doing the right things at practice to gain play time?

                            Anyway, this is one of those few times I will use blind faith. Something just tells me Tuck will bounce back for one more good season.

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                            • #90
                              Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                              How would you know that for sure?
                              You or I wouldn't, but I'm presuming that the coaches who watch the players every day in practice would (or should).
                              Last edited by TCHOF; 01-24-2013, 11:37 AM.

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