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  • #31
    well, i did say the giants wouldn't offer the 1st rounder right out of the chute. just saying if it came to that, would you do it? your answer is obviously "no"
    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    If the Jets offered Revis in a trade right now they wouldn't get any more than a 2nd rounder. Maybe less due to the ACL.

    Why would we pay 1st rounder for an injured player? Seems like a bad move.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
      If the Jets offered Revis in a trade right now they wouldn't get any more than a 2nd rounder. Maybe less due to the ACL.Why would we pay 1st rounder for an injured player? Seems like a bad move.
      Forget the injury, which is huge. This guy will want a new deal after next year, and it'll be astronomical.
      My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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      • #33
        The Giants defense didn't win a superbowl 12 months ago... wow lol.

        And you guys are really assuming the Jets would trade the best CB in the NFL for the 19th overall pick, and are complaining if it does happen?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by GTGiantsFan View Post
          The Giants defense didn't win a superbowl 12 months ago... wow lol.And you guys are really assuming the Jets would trade the best CB in the NFL for the 19th overall pick, and are complaining if it does happen?
          The Jets reportedly want to trade him, and a first round pick would be a very generous offer for a player that always wants a new deal and is coming off ACL surgery.
          My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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          • #35
            That ACL injury is a concern for any team thinking about trading for him. I know treatment and recovery for ACL's have improved over the years- just look at Adfrian Peterson- but we don't know how bad the tear is and if he can actually recover as good or as fast as Peterson. I would have to package it in a way that doesn't include a 1st rounder. And you know if the Jets were to do a deal with the Giants, they would want JPP somehow included.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cool Papa B. View Post
              That ACL injury is a concern for any team thinking about trading for him. I know treatment and recovery for ACL's have improved over the years- just look at Adfrian Peterson- but we don't know how bad the tear is and if he can actually recover as good or as fast as Peterson. I would have to package it in a way that doesn't include a 1st rounder. And you know if the Jets were to do a deal with the Giants, they would want JPP somehow included.
              Who wouldn't? Lol
              My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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              • #37
                Thought i saw an article or somebody saying that the ACL was the hardest injury to come back from as a Corner Back

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                • #38
                  Jets are getting rid of him BECAUSE he wants too much money

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                  • #39
                    we have a younger version of revis in prince, dont see the need to trade any picks for him imo

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Drystt View Post
                      Why you being such a butthole? Just stated my opinion. Don't like it? Keep scrolling.
                      Anyways, what I was suggesting was that it would be a big "sexy" FA pick up which would make the idiots in ESPN be less bias towards this team.
                      Screw the media.

                      However, the big problem is that he's coming off an ACL and has a huge contract... And wants to redo his deal every couple of years so he can maintain being the highest paid player. He's a good player, but on our team he's not worth the contract. Al Davis really ****ed the market with his Nnamdi deal a bunch of years ago.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                        Forget the injury, which is huge. This guy will want a new deal after next year, and it'll be astronomical.
                        Exactly. Not only do you have to give up the pick, you're going to have to pay the man

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Drystt View Post
                          I would offer a 2nd and a 5th for Revis and maybe some incentives if he makes pro bowl or whatever. I'm sure he's talented enough to adjust to Fewell's scheme and dominate as well. This would make huge media news and make Giants a little bit more respectable if this were to happen.
                          We should make a move because it might make "huge media news"? I think that you have mistaken this board for the Jets message board.

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                          • #43
                            Give me Ed Reed.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                              Honestly...a corner coming off an ACL is as big or (bigger) a risk than a mid first round pick.
                              Plus he makes a ton. Plus he's been in the league for a while now. I'd rather have a young prospect taken with the 19th pick.

                              Also Revis doesn't really fit our scheme. He's a press corner guy who would have problems in a conference with RGIII, Kapernick, Wilson and the other mobile QB's.
                              We are a zone defense now.
                              I strongly disagree with your last point. A system is only as good as the players that are in it. In other words why not just stock up on good players? I would never say to myself "i don't want Von Miller on this team, he doesn't fit the system", or ware, or Patrick Willis, or James Harrison, etc. I don't care what system they are in. I think it would make more sense to say "That guy is a great player, we can find ways to fit him into our system and play him to his strengths". It's a coaches job to find ways to utilize the talent they have.

                              Also, Revis is good in zone as well. It just benefits the team more to play him in man to man coverage. Why waste a corner in zone if he can shut down The best receiver on the other team? If we play against qbs like Rg3 kapernick or Wilson, and we have great corners who excel in man to man coverage, we could blitz contain and play press. I doubt any of these Qbs would put on a show like did they this season against a defense like the jets were 3-4 years ago when rex first got there.

                              And last but not least why not just change the system then? If you have corners who are better at man to man then dont play so much zone. Blitz more. use a qb spy instead of zone. The only reason i wouldnt want revis for a first is because of the ACL injury.But when he is healthy he is the best defensive player in the NFL and probably the best corner to ever play the game.

                              I think we use the word "system" and try to complicate things too much. If you're a good corner then you are a good corner. If you're a great Quarterback then you are a great quarterback. Get the Great player first, worry about the "system" later.
                              Last edited by Marvelousmik; 01-24-2013, 01:04 AM.
                              Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

                              ~Big Mike~

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
                                I think it would make more sense to say "That guy is a great player, we can find ways to fit him into our system and play him to his strengths". I think its a coaches job to use players to their strengths and find ways in order to fit them into their system.
                                Too bad this is the Giants. Adapt or die.

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