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  • #61
    Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
    VDC, that was very good of you. Everyone on the MB is proud.
    I would really appreciate it if you would put me on your "ignore" list.
    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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    • #62
      pass. Revis is like Osi, he wants more money every year..

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
        pass. Revis is like Osi, he wants more money every year..
        except that Revis deserves the money.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by elitocruz View Post
          as the best cover corner in football should be. obviously we'd have to trim some fat. but give me an answer as if money and the cap were no object.
          Sure I'll ignore reality of the cap, his injury, the players to cut to fit him, and tell you that yes, make the trade..

          This post by you should automatically invalidate the rest of this thread.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by elitocruz View Post
            Would you do that right now? tonight? Jets say they might explore a trade. at 19, heck even at #1, there are no guarantees. That guy is a guarantee. a lock down corner in his prime. would mask basically our biggest problem. and with Prince make our pass rush more dangerous with "coverage sacks."

            On the flip side, he's entering his 7th year and has had a knee surgery. so it's risky. and you won't get the same mileage as you would out of a 2013 pick. tough call, or easy decision for the Giants? (also, giants wouldn't offer the 1st right out the gate anyway, but if it came to that, would you do it?)
            Thats the question, with this surgery is his prime past him? To trade a #1, for ANY team is a huge leap of faith. Pass.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by SimmsandLT View Post
              Sure I'll ignore reality of the cap, his injury, the players to cut to fit him, and tell you that yes, make the trade..

              This post by you should automatically invalidate the rest of this thread.
              The money and the cap are the biggest consideration.

              Trading a draft pick for Revis is a no-brainer. Trading a draft pick for Revis and then paying him $50M+ after a knee injury? Not so much . . .

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              • #67
                Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                except that Revis deserves the money.
                No he doesn't. He wants franchise QB money. CBs are important, but not that important. The decline in production between Revis and a guy you can pay $6m-$8m doesn't justify the extra money.

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                • #68
                  Having another shut down corner will compensate for our lack of pass rush and run stopping LB. It's going to be very very difficult to pass on us with Revis. I would try to avoid giving up a first but tempted to give up multiple picks in the later rounds.

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                  • #69
                    We aren't the Cowboys.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by EliDaMANning View Post
                      Having another shut down corner will compensate for our lack of pass rush and run stopping LB. It's going to be very very difficult to pass on us with Revis. I would try to avoid giving up a first but tempted to give up multiple picks in the later rounds.
                      There is no way of knowing how he will come back from this injury. ACL injuries effect corners more than any position. There is also no way of knowing if he is still a "shutdown" corner and if he is...for how much longer.
                      In other words, the jury is still out on whether or not he is still the player he was.
                      PLUS, he only has one more year on his contract and has held out before. No reason to believe he wouldn't again.
                      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                        except that Revis deserves the money.
                        true, but NY doesnt have it..

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          There is no way of knowing how he will come back from this injury. ACL injuries effect corners more than any position. There is also no way of knowing if he is still a "shutdown" corner and if he is...for how much longer.
                          In other words, the jury is still out on whether or not he is still the player he was.
                          PLUS, he only has one more year on his contract and has held out before. No reason to believe he wouldn't again.
                          There is no way of knowing how our draft picks will turn out. There is no way of knowing how long they'll play either.

                          Reese does a good job with our 1st rounders so I would prefer to keep that pick. I would much rather try to give up a bunch of later picks because our coaching staff won't play those guys anyways. Matter of fact, I wouldn't mind trading a first rounder if we're going to end up giving him the David Wilson treatment like we did last year.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Drez View Post
                            No he doesn't. He wants franchise QB money. CBs are important, but not that important. The decline in production between Revis and a guy you can pay $6m-$8m doesn't justify the extra money.
                            I'm not really sure exactly what he is asking for, and his asking price may be ridiculous. What I do know is that he will get a lot of money.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by EliDaMANning View Post
                              There is no way of knowing how our draft picks will turn out. There is no way of knowing how long they'll play either.

                              Reese does a good job with our 1st rounders so I would prefer to keep that pick. I would much rather try to give up a bunch of later picks because our coaching staff won't play those guys anyways. Matter of fact, I wouldn't mind trading a first rounder if we're going to end up giving him the David Wilson treatment like we did last year.
                              Trading a first round pick for a guy who's coming off an ACL is a bad move. Plus it flies directly in the face of what we're all about.
                              This is the kind of deal the Skins (pre Shanahan) and the Cowboys make. Not us.

                              Its nice fodder to pass the day on the MB, but that's it.
                              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                                We can't have a bunch of corners running out there chasing WR's when RGIII is running past them.
                                Our scheme (at least as it pertains to our zone coverage) is highly appropriate for the new and ever changing NFL.

                                And I never once called for PF to be fired. The guy's defense won a SB 12 months ago for God's sake.
                                Giving up 12000 yards in two years says otherwise.

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