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  • #61
    [QUOTE=GTGiantsFan;670150]
    Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post

    The players simply played inspired, and a lot better. His scheme is shown not to work on a consistent basis, and it doesn't work for the giants.

    His defense also gave up how many points to the Falcons, Ravens, Bengals, Bucs, Browns?
    The scheme PF plays tends to work when the players play well and tends not to work when the players don't.
    So maybe the answer is for the players to play well.
    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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    • #62
      [QUOTE=Morehead State;670153]
      Originally posted by GTGiantsFan View Post
      The scheme PF plays tends to work when the players play well and tends not to work when the players don't.
      So maybe the answer is for the players to play well.
      Or to use a scheme that gets the most out of his players consistently.

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      • #63
        I don't dislike Fewell I just like Spags style of defense better.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
          Yeah because his defense was worse than the Giants and he has now been fired two times since he was the DC here. Yeah hire him.
          Yeah and he had different players to

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          • #65
            Originally posted by JPP=BEASTMODE View Post
            I don't dislike Fewell I just like Spags style of defense better.
            I think his style of play gets the most out of the Giants D and I think the Giants D will be happy to play for him, they were most comfortable with him I think.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by JPP=BEASTMODE View Post
              Yeah and he had different players to
              He'd be returning to different players as well. This isn't four years ago.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                He'd be returning to different players as well. This isn't four years ago.
                Better DT's, Arguably the same DE's depending on what Ojomo and Tracy can give us, he could get something out of Webster, Prince is a great corner, and he'll have better Safeties.

                All he'd have is worse linebackers which I hope we address this offseason.

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                • #68
                  I wouldnt mind seeing him come back. The D did go downhill after he left. At least he will fire up a blitz package now and then. Seemed to be unpredictable in his D play calling. Nothing wrong with keeping opposing O's unsure of what ws coming next. His last 2 jobs he went to orginizations in total disaray. I don't think his firing in NO was so much job performance as it was Payton wanting a restart totally under his control.
                  # 80 (For FBomb)

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                  • #69
                    the people at nfl said it best.. in a passing league he had argueably the worst DEs and OLBs in the game.. how could he succeed? i'd take him back in a heartbeat.. he's at least earned the chance to get another shot at the job..

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                    • #70
                      Spag's aggressive defense fits our players better.
                      Engage brain before speaking.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                        I'm starting to think the players made the coach
                        Many DC's would look good with that team. He had 3 DE's playing at an All Pro Level. Tuck was absolute Monster rushing the QB from inside. If the Giants last season had Tuck and Osi playing at that level this team would of won 12 games. Its why I think this Dline has to be rebuilt. The Giants won 2 Super Bowls with completely different Offenses they won on Defense with the same idea a Monster Dline.
                        Last edited by Redeyejedi; 01-25-2013, 09:12 AM.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          I'm starting to think the players made the coach
                          Lets look at the 2 coordinators sandwiching Spags... Tim Lewis and Bill Sheridan. They could not do anything with the same players. Spags is legit. He was the HC for a horrible Rams team and was a bit over his head. In NO he has no playmakers and the team lost a bunch of players and the HC. He got a raw deal.

                          He is still a legit DC. I would drop our bottom 5 DC Fewell in half a second for Spags. Fewell is terrible. 31st in 2012, 28th in 2011.... Garbage.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                            Many DC's would look good with that team. He had 3 DE's playing at an All Pro Level.
                            Than why couldnt Sheridan (Tuck Osi JPP) or Lewis (Tuck Osi Stray)?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by GTGiantsFan View Post
                              Better DT's, Arguably the same DE's depending on what Ojomo and Tracy can give us, he could get something out of Webster, Prince is a great corner, and he'll have better Safeties.

                              All he'd have is worse linebackers which I hope we address this offseason.
                              Nowhere near the same DE's . A lot of u are still under the impression Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyoria are the same players, they arent .. Spags wouldnt win with how bad this Dline played last season. Justin Tuck was the best interior Pass Rusher in the NFL when Spags was here.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                                Than why couldnt Sheridan (Tuck Osi JPP) or Lewis (Tuck Osi Stray)?
                                Sheridan didnt have JPP first off Justin Tuck played the whole season with a torn labrum after he was injured by that piece of human excrement Flozell Adams.

                                In 2006 Justin Tuck was in his 2nd year and got injured and missed 10 games. Osi Umenyoria missed 5. Strahan missed 7 Also that Defense gave up 22.6 ppg Spags the year that won the Superbowl gave up 21.9

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