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How many sacks did our linebackers have the past 5 yrs????

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  • How many sacks did our linebackers have the past 5 yrs????

    Why in gods name does Reese not address that position he can't have a hard on for dline that bad we always get fill ins or try to convert someone giants defense was always known for linebacker play when I was growing up. Ap wasn't great but we have not replaced him yet let alone had anyone that even made a difference at that position . My question is why does he not see that??? Thoughts giants nation

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    Since when were sacks indicative of a linebacker's quality?

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    • #3
      Or maybe tackles and tackles for less, still we haven't had a decent linebacker since Pierce started declining and eventually retired.

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      • #4
        Chase was better than AP.
        Torque it till it breaks, then back off a 1/4 turn.

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        • #5
          No he wasn't.

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            While I will agree the Giants' linebackers have been mediocre at best, being that we run a 4-3 defense the linebackers are not in there for sacks. That is just a bonus. The true stats to look at for 4-3 backers would be to look at, as GT said, tackles and the opposing offenses' yards per carry and what the tight ends were able to do. Their job in a 4-3 is to contain and to fill in space between the line and the safeties or to take advantage of holes that the d-line opens up.

            The defensive ends of a 4-3 are the equivalent of the 3-4 outside linebacker more or less.

            And, while I think the linebacker situation will be somewhat addressed in the draft, I think we'll probably see a project drafted and be spending our top pick on a pass rushing defensive end. Our bread and butter was weak this last year and needs to be solidified.
            Last edited by Rat_bastich; 01-25-2013, 06:33 AM. Reason: corrected early morning spelling

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rat_bastich View Post
              While I will agree the Giants' linebackers have been mediocre at best, being that we run a 4-3 defense the linebackers are not in there for sacks. That is just a bonus. The true stats to look at for 4-3 backers would be to look at, as GT said, tackles and the opposing offenses' yards per carry and what the tight ends were able to do. Their job in a 4-3 is to contain and to fill in space between the line and the safeties or to take advantage of holes that the d-line opens up.

              The defensive ends of a 4-3 are the equivalent of the 3-4 outside linebacker more or less.

              And, while I think the linebacker situation will be somewhat addressed in the draft, I think we'll probably see a project drafted and be spending our top pick on a pass rushing defensive end. Our bread and butter was weak this last year and needs to be solidified.
              This. If LT were in our system today he'd be a defensive end...

              I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                Chase was better than AP.
                Take it easy with that. AP got slow towards the end, but he was a far better player than Chase will ever be. And he was a real good defensive QB.
                #80

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                • #9
                  You mean the past 5 season where they won 2 Super Bowls?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by giantsacks View Post
                    Why in gods name does Reese not address that position he can't have a hard on for dline that bad we always get fill ins or try to convert someone giants defense was always known for linebacker play when I was growing up. Ap wasn't great but we have not replaced him yet let alone had anyone that even made a difference at that position . My question is why does he not see that??? Thoughts giants nation
                    We play a 4-3 defense.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                      Chase was better than AP.
                      That we can even have that discussion proves the point of this thread. Our linebackers have been weak for too long, even though sacks is not the right measuring stick.
                      Last edited by jomo; 01-25-2013, 10:48 AM.
                      No one remembers who came in second.

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                      • #12
                        we get these guys that come in here n show athletic ability. speed. smarts. upside. then the whistle blows and the guys hamstring falls out, his ankle snaps in half, and then his acl tears off. so reese has to call chase n tell him to put the hedge trimmers down cause he is starting sunday.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by giantsacks View Post
                          Why in gods name does Reese not address that position he can't have a hard on for dline that bad we always get fill ins or try to convert someone giants defense was always known for linebacker play when I was growing up. Ap wasn't great but we have not replaced him yet let alone had anyone that even made a difference at that position . My question is why does he not see that??? Thoughts giants nation
                          Well, when you were growing up we ran a 34 which is a LB driven defense. Our defense now is DL driven. How many teams around the league would kill to have our DL personnel, even with them underperforming this season?

                          Sure, we need to improve our LB corps, but you're comparing apples to oranges when you look back to the Parcells era LBs.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                            Chase was better than AP.
                            Gumby, I think you're posting on the wrong SN, lol.

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                            • #15
                              The better question should be how many missed tackles has our linebackers had the last 5 years?

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