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  • #31
    Originally posted by NorwoodBlue View Post
    WTF? He was undrafted, that's just a fact. It's also probable that he would have been cut by most teams in the league, and never made a roster but for one preseason game against the Jets. Cruz has been incredibly fortunate to fall into just the right situation on the Giants. Also, without Hixon's injury in 2011 this could have been a whole different story.
    I agree with this part, but how does that say anything about whether or not he's a good player right now?

    As for him being "exposed" when Nicks was injured, I tottaly disagree with that. He still managed to get over 1000 yards and that would've been more if he didn't drop some balls. He needs to reduce the drops I'll admit but that can't be blamed on Nicks not being there lol

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    • #32
      It would suck, but I'd take comfort in the fact that we'd be getting a 1st rounder in compensation for a guy we didn't even draft.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
        I respect your opinion Roanoke, but i disagree. We were the only team to give this kid a shot...if Jerry Reese makes him a fair offer and he out prices himself asking for Calvin Johnson type money then i think that's wrong.

        and i wasn't comparing the two situations. I meant if he leaves for mega money his career might take a downfall as he won't have Eli throwing him the ball anymore. Just like Smith's career took a ****
        If some other teams offers him significantly more money than us, why shouldn't he take it? Sure we were the team that gave him a shot, but that doesn't mean he should feel beholden to us, especially if we're not even in the ball park of what the other team's offer is.

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        • #34
          Cruz doesn't owe us anything. His past two seasons have put him in the situation to get paid. He has given the Giants way more production than they paid him for. And now it's his turn to do what's best for him. I hope he stays but if the Giants don't give him the best deal, I won't hold it against him if he leaves. It's all business.
          #80

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          • #35
            as long as the Giants make him a fair offer I highly doubt he goes anywhere...his mom and fiance's family both live in the local area. They also live near the stadium

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            • #36
              Love the first couple replies to this thread lol. Sums it up perfectly.

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              • #37
                Maybe I'm too optimistic but I don't see us letting him walk. I think it's almost certain that he isn't going anywhere but that's just my opinion

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                  The reason he went undrafted wasn't because of his skill level.
                  Yeah, I'd have to say it was more because of his academic problems and going to UMASS.

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                  • #39
                    At first I'd feel a bit:



                    But that'd quickly move on to:

                    Last edited by Flip Empty; 01-26-2013, 08:04 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Drez View Post
                      Yeah, I'd have to say it was more because of his academic problems and going to UMASS.
                      Exactly. Cruz flunked out, wasn't focused but then once he started playing again and got himself back together, his coaches had nothing but high praise for him.
                      Mood: WOOF!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                        At first I'd feel a bit:



                        But that'd quickly move on to:

                        Eli gifs >
                        Mood: WOOF!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
                          like i said a fair contract. I was thinking a 4 or 5 yr deal @ 6-8 Mil . I like Cruz and i hope we can get a deal reached, but he doesn't deserve Calvin Johnson type money.

                          As far as the Jets or any other teams go, they wouldn't even know who he was if we didn't bring him into training camp. They only knew about him because of the breakout pre-season game when Rex was drooling
                          He deserves whatever the market says he deserves. That's how it works. Will he stay with the Giants for less money? Maybe, but not it it's significantly less over the term of a multi-year contract.
                          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                            Eli gifs >
                            Can you return the wedding dress?
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by NorwoodBlue View Post
                              WTF? He was undrafted, that's just a fact. It's also probable that he would have been cut by most teams in the league, and never made a roster but for one preseason game against the Jets. Cruz has been incredibly fortunate to fall into just the right situation on the Giants. Also, without Hixon's injury in 2011 this could have been a whole different story. And after seeing his performances when Nicks was the walking wounded, it's not a stretch at all to say he's benefited a ton from the system, Eli, and Nicks. I don't think the guy walks on water, and I think his future with some other organization isn't a guaranteed success like a lot of people assume. I think he'd be a fool to leave; but if he does, we'll survive.
                              He would have been cut by most teams? You have absolutely no way of knowing that, but after his first preseason, a lot of teams would have gladly taken a chance on him. All we did was scout him and bring him in for a look. He did everything else.
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                              • #45
                                Yes I'm sure undrafted Arian Foster is also a product of his team's system.

                                Criticise the scouts and evaluators, not the players in question.

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