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  • #91
    Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
    What has Jernigan showed you so far to make you think so?
    not much as far as a WR YET...but i think that has to do with the fact he barely gets any playing time. He was drafted to play the slot, not knowing what we had in Cruz at the time. I think he will be a pretty good player when given the chance, It's just my opinion. He fast as hell, and hes exciting with the ball in his hands. I know this is the NFL, but go watch some of his college tape

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    • #92
      Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
      There is no one on our roster who can replace Cruz and bringing someone in starts the Eli chemistry clock at 00. Better to sign him than any of the alternatives.
      completely agree with you, I'm not saying to not sign Cruz, I think the kid is awesome

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      • #93
        Originally posted by JesseJames View Post
        I hope this doesn't happen because he is an important part of the future but stranger things have happened and what will your feelings be if Reese is forced to lose him...
        We've done plenty time before, so it wouldn't surprise me.
        Reese, gone. Check! Bench McAdoo Doo, gone. Check! Let's Giants 2018.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by JesseJames View Post
          I hope this doesn't happen because he is an important part of the future but stranger things have happened and what will your feelings be if Reese is forced to lose him...
          If the Giants lose Cruz, Reese deserves to be condemned to listening to Rex Ryan press conferences endlessly through headphones glued to his ears for eternity!
          And I'm telling you right now, they're not going to be able to keep both Cruz AND Nicks.
          "I'M ALL FOR IT!"

          John McKay, HC of the 1976 winless TB Buccaneers, when asked by a reporter, how McKay felt, about the execution of his offense.

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          • #95
            Thanks for everything Victor, we will miss .....now its Reuben Randle time!

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            • #96
              Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
              not much as far as a WR YET...but i think that has to do with the fact he barely gets any playing time. He was drafted to play the slot, not knowing what we had in Cruz at the time. I think he will be a pretty good player when given the chance, It's just my opinion. He fast as hell, and hes exciting with the ball in his hands. I know this is the NFL, but go watch some of his college tape
              I understand what you're saying, but I want to see what he's done in the NFL, not in college.
              Mood: WOOF!

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                Wait hold on, so Cruz who has PROVEN to be an elite receiver should go, because HOPEFULLY other guys like Jernigan and Barden who have proven to not play up to expectations are going to step up? I agree that he can't get paid like like a number one receiver, but to say he's easily replaceable and other guys can mimick his success is absolutely absurd.
                Not to worry, my Crystal Ball predicts Cruz is a Giants next season.

                I thought I would just take a sec. to remind everyone that Cruz is not worth 10mil/year. And if push comes t shove, we can be a productive offense without him.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
                  Not to worry, my Crystal Ball predicts Cruz is a Giants next season.

                  I thought I would just take a sec. to remind everyone that Cruz is not worth 10mil/year. And if push comes t shove, we can be a productive offense without him.
                  I think he's worth it, but we can't pay him that much. SOOOO hopefully he understands and him and Reese can negotiate.
                  Mood: WOOF!

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                    I understand what you're saying, but I want to see what he's done in the NFL, not in college.
                    I agree with that, but he can't get on the field with a healthy and very good Cruz in front of him. He's not gonna play out wide like Hakeem, Randle, Barden, Hixon..he is a slot reciever. He was getting worked into the offense a little more towards the end of the year in 4 WR sets

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                    • Why do people think Cruz is easily replaceable?

                      I'm not going to pull up his stats because I'm sure most of you know how elite his numbers are.
                      I've seen many people say that Jernigan or Barden will step up in his place..what? In what way? I barely see Jernigan play and Barden played one good game out of the four years he's been here.

                      I understand giving guys a chance to play and step up, but to just assume that they can perform at the same level Cruz has performed is absurd.
                      Mood: WOOF!

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                      • Originally posted by bigblue58 View Post
                        If the Giants lose Cruz, Reese deserves to be condemned to listening to Rex Ryan press conferences endlessly through headphones glued to his ears for eternity!
                        And I'm telling you right now, they're not going to be able to keep both Cruz AND Nicks.
                        What you have said makes sense. Yet they should be able to keep both cause both players help each other out . Usualy, I say that there should be at least 3 good receivers on the field at the same time so we have to look at the second and third options. More good receivers on the field at the same time would be appreciated but at least 3 good receivers on the field at the same time is the right amount every offense should have so that the qb has options. Cruz has weakness and he should know this. He also should think about his team and teamates.

                        Jerry Rice was a great receiver but look at what else he had on the field with him in the days of the 49ers. He had about 2 other receivers able to get open. Cruz had a down year and could have had more yards and tds if Nicks was healthy. Look at the game against the Bucs. Yet if the Giants are unable to take care of the other receivers, Cruz is going to do little way less if he gets a good paycheck if the Giants are unable to replace the other receivers.

                        If he leaves for more money and the Giants don't have enough to keep him, then Cruz is about money more than the team. That may not be a bad thing and that is what he wanted if he does leave.

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                        • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                          I think he's worth it, but we can't pay him that much. SOOOO hopefully he understands and him and Reese can negotiate.
                          Thats where we differ. Cruz is not worth top dollar. (Brandon Marshall, Vincent Jackson, Calvin Johnson...etc.)

                          I'd pay Cruz realistically somewhere around 6-7mil/year regardless of the structure. He's just not big enough of a guy (height and weight) to be "that type" of elite receiver.

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                          • He's not easily replaceable.

                            It just hurts a bit less to assume these other guys can step up (if indeed Cruz decides to walk).

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                            • Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
                              Thats where we differ. Cruz is not worth top dollar. (Brandon Marshall, Vincent Jackson, Calvin Johnson...etc.)

                              I'd pay Cruz realistically somewhere around 6-7mil/year regardless of the structure. He's just not big enough of a guy (height and weight) to be "that type" of elite receiver.
                              What does height have to do with posting elite numbers? Yes, he has elite numbers.
                              His two seasons combined are better than A.J. Green's two seasons, whom by the way is 6'4.
                              Mood: WOOF!

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                              • Say that Giants gave him a lot of money and do not have enough money to keep other talent, then is Cruz worth it? Will he stil perform at a high level?

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