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  • #46
    One player revolutionized the position, the other played it.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
      So let me get this straight. Someone tried to rob LT at gun point and LT managed to beat them up, take the gun from them, and the drugs? Then he hooked his buddies up with escorts before a game? The only thing better than this is if he did it all in the same day.

      Lol all jokes aside, Judging people's lives based on past events which happened many years ago is pretty low, and has nothing to do with giants football. i could never judge someone i dont know especially if i have never met them. Thats just not me. But i am curious. what do you guys consider good off of the field? What types of things should a person do off of the field to be considered a good person? Who are some good off of the field players?
      Well, the title of the thread LT VS Ray Lewis on the field and off so it is going to stir up comments about their lives off the field.

      It is around the 2:36 mark that LT talks about sending escorts over to oppossing football players rooms. I think it is actually funny.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-2s_xby23g

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      • #48
        Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post

        It is around the 2:36 mark that LT talks about sending escorts over to oppossing football players rooms. I think it is actually funny.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-2s_xby23g
        Lmfao.

        I think people are waaaay to sensitive. One guy bang's Ho's and does drugs.(welcome to America). The other is trying to correct past mistakes by being a positive role model.

        I see 2 guys living their lives the way they want and not hurting anyone. Whats the problem here again?
        Last edited by Marvelousmik; 01-31-2013, 05:27 AM.
        Don't take it personal, we're just debating.

        ~Big Mike~

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
          Lmfao.

          I think people are waaaay to sensitive. One guy bang's Ho's and does drugs.(welcome to America). The other is trying to correct past mistakes by being a positive role model.

          I see 2 guys living their lives the way they want and not hurting anyone. Whats the problem here again?
          I don’t think it really is a problem. Posters are responding to the title of the thread.

          So much for the tall theory huh? Don’t feel bad because I didn’t think he did the sending of the escorts to the oppossing teams room till someone showed me the link too. Then I LMAO.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Marvelousmik View Post
            Lmfao.

            I think people are waaaay to sensitive. One guy bang's Ho's and does drugs.(welcome to America). The other is trying to correct past mistakes by being a positive role model.

            I see 2 guys living their lives the way they want and not hurting anyone. Whats the problem here again?
            WOAH, wait a minute here buddy, who do you think you are to pass judgement on these players?

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            • #51
              when RL has 2 huge DT in front of him he is a good player. with out the huge DT he is just another player.... it did'n matter who played in front of LT they could not stop him.. LT is why teams HAD to use the 2 TE formation..the best football player who ever play the game i don't know about that.. R.WHITE was a great player!!!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
                So I guess you find it completely normal that a group of guys including a proffesional football player, needed to uses knives to defend themselves against these two men. If it was honest self defense, why didn't they just all come forward from the beginning and call the police. Why wouldn't Lewis just provide the bloody suit to the police. And if they were completley innocent and just "defending" themselves, why would Ray Lewis give money to the families of the people that were attacking him and his friends, that they had to kill, in self defense. Do you smell that fish???
                if you got into a fight and killed somebody in self defense you would go right to the cops and and tell your story??
                OK....right
                "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                  if you got into a fight and killed somebody in self defense you would go right to the cops and and tell your story??
                  OK....right

                  Nah. I would immediately flee the scene, get rid of bloody clothes and cover for my friends that stabbed 1 of the guys 3 times in the chest and 5 times in the liver in self defense.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by BJacobs aka The Problem View Post
                    So is thread about football or did I stumble into the GiantsTMZ forum?

                    Personally, don't give a rats *** about what these guys have done off the field. They'll be judged in whatever way follows suit. Now speaking of their football careers:

                    Like many have already noted, LT is perhaps the greatest defensive player to play the game. Period. He was a force that had to be accounted for every snap. Offenses had to change because of LT. They just didn't change a play or decide not run his way, they had to change the way they operated in order to have a chance to be successful.

                    Lewis on the other hand, he's up there in the discussion as one of the best inside linebackers to play the game, but that's it. That's nothing to sneeze at and in no way am I discounting that he will go down as being one of the greats, but there's a huge difference in how opposing teams prepared and entered the game when having to play these two.
                    There is a lot of validity in this post.
                    In my case, I simply don't want to know. I just want to watch them play and be done with them. Unfortunately, we have to hear all this crap and its hard not to let it effect your opinion of a player.
                    Better to just not know.
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
                      So youve played god & already judged lewis? Theres a reason he wasnt convicted of murder, if the state had any solid evidence that he was the one that killed the guy, hed be in prison till this day....was he there? Obviously. ..does he know what happend? I'm sure...did he actually kill the guy? You & everyone else will never know...
                      OJ Was acquitted . Please tell me you have the same reaction when people refer to him as a Murderer.

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                      • #56
                        BTW Back to the topic. LT was more impactful. It's not debatable. Ray is great, and will be one of the best ever, but LT changed the game permanently. Many offensive schemes you see to this day only exist because of one person: Lawrence Taylor.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                          if you got into a fight and killed somebody in self defense you would go right to the cops and and tell your story??
                          OK....right
                          I think you have too. Cant just leave the scene or try and cover it up because it looks worse. The person looks guilty of something. If youre forthcoming and say it was self defense its more believable.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
                            Nah. I would immediately flee the scene, get rid of bloody clothes and cover for my friends that stabbed 1 of the guys 3 times in the chest and 5 times in the liver in self defense.
                            see....
                            "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                            You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                            • #59
                              LT was just amazing and Lewis in his own right a very special HOF player
                              as well.

                              Off the field LT had his demons and its seems they
                              are still with him till this day.

                              Ray Lewis on the other hand stays clear
                              of being a nightly news target. Being associated
                              with a murder is a serious issue but that was a long
                              time ago, I am not supporting ray lewis but LT's off field
                              issues have been documented for years to present.

                              Lewis seems to have cleaned up his act for awhile now.
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                              LT - Carson - Kelley - Van Pelt

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by njg85m View Post
                                OJ Was acquitted . Please tell me you have the same reaction when people refer to him as a Murderer.
                                there was a reason the nation was shocked when OJ was acquitted & nobody realy cared about Lewis......There was unreal evidence against OJ & the prosecution couldnt even come up with anything solid against lewis besides perhaps not ratting on his friends...

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