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  • Ray Lewis vs. LT on the field and off

    On the field, Ray Lewis is arguably the greatest LB of this generation. Likewise, LT IS the greatest of his generation, maybe of all time. However, they do play different positions. Lewis is also going for his second Superpbowl, possibly tying LT. On the field, who is/was more important to their team? Is LT's play too much for Lewis to overcome or does Lewis's leadership prove him to be more valuable on a possibly let talented team?

    Off the field, Lewis has changed his image into a humble and spiritual leader for his community. However, it is not in the distant past he was up for murder charges, paying off families of victims, and lets not forget (thank you Mrs. Welker) his 5 kids and 4 wives. That is hardly the resume of a role model.

    Off the field, LT is linked heavily to drugs, prison, and more recently, sex with a minor and prostitution. While he has not shown to have too many redeeming qualities or even attempted to rehabilitate his image like Lewis has, it is hard to look past the fact that drugs and prostitution is nowhere near as heinous as murder.

    So, what is everyone's opinions of Lewis vs. LT on and off the field?

  • #2
    Ray Lewis is a prime example of how money can buy your way our of trouble. I really, really , can't stand Jim Harbough. But I would be disgusted to see that criminal walk off into the sunset with another SB ring.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
      Ray Lewis is a prime example of how money can buy your way our of trouble. I really, really , can't stand Jim Harbough. But I would be disgusted to see that criminal walk off into the sunset with another SB ring.
      I almost forgot that you were at the scene & saw exactly what happend...

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      • #4
        On the field Lewis plays his position better than anyone has since maybe Singletary........on the field Taylor single-handedly changed the outcome of games on a consistent basis and changed the way the game was/is played......there is no comparison.

        Off the field they're both eff ups.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
          I almost forgot that you were at the scene & saw exactly what happend...
          http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...-2000/1566198/

          Don't be so quick to defend Ray...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
            I almost forgot that you were at the scene & saw exactly what happend...
            You are entitled to your opinion. I'm sure you feel O.J. is a model citizen also.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by VBGiantsFan View Post
              So youve played god & already judged lewis? Theres a reason he wasnt convicted of murder, if the state had any solid evidence that he was the one that killed the guy, hed be in prison till this day....was he there? Obviously. ..does he know what happend? I'm sure...did he actually kill the guy? You & everyone else will never know...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
                So youve played god & already judged lewis? Theres a reason he wasnt convicted of murder, if the state had any solid evidence that he was the one that killed the guy, hed be in prison till this day....was he there? Obviously. ..does he know what happend? I'm sure...did he actually kill the guy? You & everyone else will never know...
                Not being the one with the knife, doesn't automatically make him an innocent man. He was charged with murder, and took a plea down to obstruction of justice, in exchange for testimony against his tow friends. He then gave a financial settlement to the families of the victims. He probably wasn't the one with the knife. But if that were you or I, we'd be in jail.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
                  So youve played god & already judged lewis? Theres a reason he wasnt convicted of murder, if the state had any solid evidence that he was the one that killed the guy, hed be in prison till this day....was he there? Obviously. ..does he know what happend? I'm sure...did he actually kill the guy? You & everyone else will never know...
                  I think having a blood soaked suit that conspicuously disappeared puts him pretty damn close to the murder scene.

                  If Ray truly knows what happened and refuses to tell the authorities or families, what do you think of him?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VBGiantsFan View Post
                    On the field, Ray Lewis is arguably the greatest LB of this generation. Likewise, LT IS the greatest of his generation, maybe of all time. However, they do play different positions. Lewis is also going for his second Superpbowl, possibly tying LT. On the field, who is/was more important to their team? Is LT's play too much for Lewis to overcome or does Lewis's leadership prove him to be more valuable on a possibly let talented team?

                    Off the field, Lewis has changed his image into a humble and spiritual leader for his community. However, it is not in the distant past he was up for murder charges, paying off families of victims, and lets not forget (thank you Mrs. Welker) his 5 kids and 4 wives. That is hardly the resume of a role model.

                    Off the field, LT is linked heavily to drugs, prison, and more recently, sex with a minor and prostitution. While he has not shown to have too many redeeming qualities or even attempted to rehabilitate his image like Lewis has, it is hard to look past the fact that drugs and prostitution is nowhere near as heinous as murder.

                    So, what is everyone's opinions of Lewis vs. LT on and off the field?
                    What LT did is WAY MORE heinous then a murder allegation. RL was not convicted. If you are convinced he murdered someone then thats your opnion.
                    Thats not what was decided in court. What he paid off was a civil suit not the criminal suit IIRC.

                    On the field. LT was better at his position then RL was at his. With that said RL is one of the top LBs to ever play the game for sure.
                    "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
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                    • #11
                      On the field Ray Lewis has had a great career and is one of the top 5 LBs to ever play the game. He is a great leader on the field.

                      On the field LT was The Greatest Defensive player of all time. He revolutionized the game and the only way to have described him would be as a force of nature. I have never seen a football player do what he did on a regular basis. Strong, fast, great instincts, made everyone around him play better, great leader and so much more. I donít know if we will ever see another football player like LT.

                      Off the field Ray lewis was involved in a murder and pled out to an obstruction of justice charge. Key evidence, mainly a bloody white suit has never been found and witnesses changed their story. He paid off the victims families. That has all been documented and uncontested. He has a number of kids with different women and claims that he is now born again and appears to live a very charitable and giving life. Some folks say he has found redemption and never committed the crimes. Some have said he was involved in the crimes and has found redemption. Some say he is a fake and it is all an act. I think Ray Lewis was somehow involved in the murders and I do think that since then, he has changed his life around. I donít think it excuses his past deeds if he was so involved.

                      LT has had drug problems. LT has had numerous legal problems with the most recent being sex woith an underage prstitute that told him she was overage. He was cleared in a civil suit and alegations of abuse against the prostitue were found to be false. It would also appear that although alcohol was involved that drugs werenít and that LT is still drug free. LT is not a model citizen and is not a role model off the field. However, the activities he has been accussed of are more of a self destructive kind as oppossed to the activities that Ray Lewis has been accussed of that hurt others. The one thing that is clearly evident is that LT is not fake and unlike Ray, if Ray is guilty, LT owns up to his mistakes, admits his complicity while Ray doesnít.
                      Last edited by BuffyBlueII; 01-29-2013, 04:28 PM.

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                      • #12
                        There's a reason that our judicial system holds people "Innocent until PROVEN guilty"...

                        I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                          There's a reason that our judicial system holds people "Innocent until PROVEN guilty"...
                          Yes it does and in all fairness, Ray Lewis did plead out to an obstruction of justice charge in the murder case. He also did pay monies to the victim’s families. The driver also did change his statements in regard to ray’s involvemement. Obviously none of us were there so we don’t know how involved in the murder Ray was but we do know that he was involved in some way either in the action of commiting the crime or in covering it up which would account for his plea.

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                          • #14
                            I can't believe the amount of people defending Ray Lewis. He may not have actually committed murder. But he absolutely was there, he was absolutely involved in trying to cover it up, and he absolutely took a plea in exchange for flipping on his friends. And he absolutely gave a financial settlement to the victims families. There is no debating these facts. So for all you folks that have faith in our legal system and want to preach "innocent til proven guilty", I applaud your patriotism. You are entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion he got off easy because of who he is, just like many other people with money and power have before.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
                              I can't believe the amount of people defending Ray Lewis. He may not have actually committed murder. But he absolutely was there, he was absolutely involved in trying to cover it up, and he absolutely took a plea in exchange for flipping on his friends. And he absolutely gave a financial settlement to the victims families. There is no debating these facts. So for all you folks that have faith in our legal system and want to preach "innocent til proven guilty", I applaud your patriotism. You are entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion he got off easy because of who he is, just like many other people with money and power have before.
                              witnessing a murder is not committing a murder. A civil suit involves monetary compensation and has nothing to do with a criminal case. The Two "friends" were aquitted of murder because of self defense. Ray Lewis actually was convicted of obstruction of justice and his "friends" werent convicted of anything. His plea saved their ***** because he was "THE" witness. Was he there...yep.....was he part of it...no. Dod his friends kills two people yes they did. That was deciding in court. THEY killed in self defense.

                              http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/0...-murder-trial/
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