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  • #31
    Originally posted by TextureDj View Post
    The CBA allows for them to re sign to a longer contract in effect giving room to restructure though right? Sort of obvious but how exactly does that effect dead money?

    Those signing bonuses are due no matter what right? Just a hypothetical if Carr had 1M in dead money and 1M in salary due this upcoming season being his last year. they can void his old contract and sign him to a new deal for 2 years @ 2M a year with no signing bonus, keeping the same overall salary for the coming year and the one to follow but what would happen to that 1mil signing bonus that was part of his previous contact?

    The way I understand it there is no way out of that 1M right? Even if he takes a pay cut and keeps it at the first, shorter contract term all they can cut is the 1M salary? I think this is right but you are more an authority that I am.

    If they void the first contract then there will be a $1 mil dead money hit.

    Theoretically they could extend him another year and not give him a new signing bonus but split that 1 mil between both years. So $500k cap hit each year. But of course you would need to give him a base salary as well. So it won't help in a lot of cases.

    But what they did with Osi was give him a signing bonus of like $6 mil and gave him an extra voidable year. So Osi has a 3 mil dead cap hit this season despite his contract being voided

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
      Honestly, unless Webster bounces back a lot next year, I'd almost trust Hosley starting across from Prince than Webster... get a few draftees for depth and we'd be set. Wouldn't be the prettiest secondary ever, but it would work, and that alone would free up the money to sign Cruz and maybe even another FA...
      I dont think Hosley can be a starter in the NFL outside.I think they need to draft another corner in the First 3 Rounds
      Last edited by Redeyejedi; 02-01-2013, 08:59 AM.

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      • #33
        I think it would be a good idea to pin this information in the forum to be referred to throughout the off season, as I expect we will continue to see threads about who we should cut, and what it will cost.
        Do not feed the trolls.

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        • #34
          I honestly don't see guys like Diehl/Webby/Tuck staying unless they take the pay cut. Low production one year is understandable/justified if there is an injury involved, or maybe a scheme change due to new coaching staff. But multiple years.........its like how long do you hold onto the old PC before its time to get a newer more updated one....just an example.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
            He restructured in 2011, supposedly. His base salary that year should have been 8, but it was 5 instead.

            https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...41867550,d.dmQ


            It might be that his cap hit is 9.9 million instead of 11.
            In which case releasing him would save approx 8 mil.
            And dead money of about 2 mil.
            It's $9.975. Dead money is almost $3.
            I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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            • #36
              thanks slip great work

              i say cut diehl canty tuck webster and boley that would free up about 28mil in cap space. bring in some free agents and sign key guys from our team
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                It's $9.975. Dead money is almost $3.
                How would his dead money be almost 3? Unless you have the specific contract details...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ryan12 View Post
                  thanks slip great work

                  i say cut diehl canty tuck webster and boley that would free up about 28mil in cap space. bring in some free agents and sign key guys from our team
                  Me likey.....+1!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ryan12 View Post
                    thanks slip great work

                    i say cut diehl canty tuck webster and boley that would free up about 28mil in cap space. bring in some free agents and sign key guys from our team
                    Damn... that's actually a lot of loot. Pick up an OT, a CB, and a DT with our first three picks and you might not even notice they were gone...

                    I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                      Damn... that's actually a lot of loot. Pick up an OT, a CB, and a DT with our first three picks and you might not even notice they were gone...
                      right and lock up jpp cruz and beatty
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                        How would his dead money be almost 3? Unless you have the specific contract details...
                        http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-...corey-webster/

                        Google is your friend.

                        And I should clarify ... it would be more like $2.75 in dead money. 250k of that "Misc Bonus" is a work out bonus (standard for Giants contracts (and also listed)).
                        I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                          http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-...corey-webster/

                          Google is your friend.

                          And I should clarify ... it would be more like $2.75 in dead money. 250k of that "Misc Bonus" is a work out bonus (standard for Giants contracts (and also listed)).
                          No. We don't know what that misc bonus is. It could be a roster bonus, in which case if they release him it disappears as well

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                            No. We don't know what that misc bonus is. It could be a roster bonus, in which case if they release him it disappears as well
                            True ... I have no problem saying he's worth $2 - $3 million in dead money.

                            Either way, the cost for cutting him and signing a new FA to take his place is almost a wash against just keeping him for 2013, realistically speaking.

                            And either way, we'd need to target a CB in this draft.
                            I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                              True ... I have no problem saying he's worth $2 - $3 million in dead money.

                              Either way, the cost for cutting him and signing a new FA to take his place is almost a wash against just keeping him for 2013, realistically speaking.

                              And either way, we'd need to target a CB in this draft.
                              Not at all. They could save 8+ million off the cap by releasing him.

                              A new contract they give out to a mid tier CB could cost them substantially less than 8+ million.

                              Cowboys signed the top FA corner last year in Carr, and he only cost them $3.2 mil against the cap.

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                              • #45
                                I don't think it's smart at all to release Tuck. He's in a contract year, and only costs about 5 million. So he should play better than last year. With Bernard not being re-signed and getting old as well, we're only down to LJ at DT, unless they plan of drafting Star Lotulelei, I say keep Canty as well.

                                Release Rolle, Webster and Diehl get rid of the worst players taking up the most space.

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