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    Been doing some calculations. This is using the numbers available to the public, Im sure some are in reality quite a bit different, but here goes.

    Im going to start with the higher value contracts, that means nobody who makes less than 5 mil a season.

    Remember dead money is money that counts against the cap and is not available to be used. Also remember players in their last year can not be restructured. You can ask them to take a pay cut.

    Players whose contracts expire at the end of 2013.

    Tuck
    Keeping next season = $5.8 mil cap hit
    Releasing before next season = savings of 4 mil
    Dead money = $1.8 mil

    Diehl
    Keeping next season = $7.825
    Releasing before next season = savings of 4.825 mil
    Dead money = $3 mil

    Boley
    Keeping next season = $5.9
    Releasing before next season = savings of 4.5 mil
    Dead money = $1.4 mil

    Webster
    Keeping next season = $11.475
    Releasing before next season = savings of 9.975
    Dead money = $2.375

    Contracts expire end of 2014.

    Bradshaw
    keeping this season = $5 mil
    keeping next season = $5.25 mil
    releasing before this season = savings of 1.25 (no cap hit after 2013, so would save full 5.25 in 2014)
    releasing after next season = savings of 4 mil
    dead space releasing before this season = 2.5 mil
    dead space releasing after next season = 1.25

    Rolle
    keeping this season = $10 mil
    keeping next season = $10 mil
    releasing before this season = savings of 1 mil (no cap hit after 2013, so would save full $10 mil in 2014)
    releasing after next season = savings of 4 mil
    dead space releasing before this season = 6 mil
    dead space releasing after next season = 3 mil

    Snee
    keeping this season = $7.95 mil
    keeping next season = $8.95 mil
    releasing before this season = savings of 3.45 (no cap hit after 2013, so would save full 8.95 mil in 2014)
    releasing after next season = savings of 6.7
    dead space releasing before this season = 4.5
    dead space releasing after next season = 2.25

    If there are any other players you want me to go through let me know. Hopefully this gives some idea.
    Last edited by slipknottin; 01-31-2013, 05:30 PM.

  • #2
    Holy **** Webster...

    I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
      Holy **** Webster...
      Webster and Rolle are the two I am not that sure about, they both supposedly restructured last season.

      I have to double check the math on them

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      • #4
        What about Baas?

        I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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        • #5
          Oh and Carr too

          I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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          • #6
            Well the Cap Casualties are obvious....

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            • #7
              Alright, Baas is going to have 3 different ones, since his contract is not up until the end of 2015.

              Keeping this season = $6.725
              Keeping next season = $7.225
              Keeping season after = $7.475

              Releasing this season = Savings of 100k
              Releasing next season = savings of 2.225 mil
              Releasing season after = savings of 5.25 mil

              Dead space cutting this season = 6.675
              Dead space cutting next season = 4.45
              Dead space cutting season after = 2.25

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                Oh and Carr too
                Carr is a free agent this season, not under contract in 2013.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                  Oh and Carr too
                  Carr is a FA and was on a vet min contract. I think he might have gotten a very small signing bonus, though.

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                  • #10
                    Diehl, Boley, Webster all must restructure- or we cut them. Diehl should be making 1-2 million, seriously his play has really declined. Boley could be cut but we have no one else, i say his contract should be 1-2 million. Webster restructure to 1-2million. If we restructure well, that money we save should be used to sign Victor Cruz- we can free up to 10+ million in cap with proper restructuring or cutting these players.

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                    • #11
                      How about Canty?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by evojutsu View Post
                        Diehl, Boley, Webster all must restructure- or we cut them. Diehl should be making 1-2 million, seriously his play has really declined. Boley could be cut but we have no one else, i say his contract should be 1-2 million. Webster restructure to 1-2million. If we restructure well, that money we save should be used to sign Victor Cruz- we can free up to 10+ million in cap with proper restructuring or cutting these players.
                        Restructuring is different from re-doing/re-negotiating.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by evojutsu View Post
                          Diehl, Boley, Webster all must restructure- or we cut them.
                          As I said, you can not restructure players with 1 year left on their deals.

                          Restructuring is converting base salary to a signing bonus to spread the cap hit through the entirety of the contract. Have no where to spread the cap hit with players who have only 1 year remaining.

                          Now they could ask them to take a pay cut.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by evojutsu View Post
                            How about Canty?
                            Knew I forgot someone.

                            Lets see here.

                            Keeping this season = 8.2 mil
                            Keeping next season = 8.4 mil
                            Releasing this season = Savings of 4.2 mil
                            Releasing after next season = Savings of 6.4 mil
                            Dead money releasing this season = 4 mil
                            Dead money releasing after next season = 2 mil

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                              Now they could ask them to take a pay cut.
                              Which is something players won't do 99% of the time. They have to be pretty certain that they'll be cut (and know that cutting them won't create a lot of dead money, either) before agreeing to a lower salary.

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