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  • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
    I remember them saying the same about Mark Sanchez. That he was the "alpha male" factor. He has "IT".
    It is obvious that whoever claimed that about Sanchize was wrong and EA was spot on right with analysis of Eli Manning.

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    • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
      its obvious the hybrid guys who are a true double threat like RG3,Kapernick Big ben, Flacco . these guys are not scramblers but true hybrid beings using todays modern technology to win Superbowls.

      we can't get stuck in a stone aged old fashion one way to skin a cat thinking process.
      Flacco????
      Ben????
      Eli moves in the pocket enough to extend plays like Flacco and Ben for sure. Why is having a QB like Eli being stuck in the stone age??
      "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
      You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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      • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
        Well since less than 25% of teams run that type of offense, you seem to be saying that teams with running QB's actually have a comparitively better chance of winning the SB than teams with pure pocket passers.
        Well looking at how many of these QBs are entering the league within the past 2 years, the trend shows that more teams will opt for this type of QB. It'll even out, but my point is the statistics will eventually normalize to what we've had over the last 40+ years. Running and passing are nothing new...we haven't discovered the world wide web here.

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        • Originally posted by AllHailEli View Post
          Well looking at how many of these QBs are entering the league within the past 2 years, the trend shows that more teams will opt for this type of QB. It'll even out, but my point is the statistics will eventually normalize to what we've had over the last 40+ years. Running and passing are nothing new...we haven't discovered the world wide web here.
          There have been a few great QB's who can run. Steve Young for one and he won a SB. the other was Randall Cunningham who deserves to be in the HOF. That kid was great.
          But we are starting to see more guys who are outstanding pocket passers as well as great runners. The QB position is simply going to have more and more athletic guys.
          But most of the old running type QB's couldn't throw the ball like Kaepernick or Wilson. And that's the real story.
          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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          • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
            It is obvious that whoever claimed that about Sanchize was wrong and EA was spot on right with analysis of Eli Manning.
            Yeah but Eli isn't on Rex's arm ..
            http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
            http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
            http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

            Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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            • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
              I agree Flacco didn't demonstrate his wheels much but he certainly has them. what he did do a lot was buy loads of extra time to get guys open.

              Now lets say Kap had a Giants defense that could hold a team under 21 points , you tell me he doesn't win???

              i agree with morehead that Kap was a young rookie and his first SB you get a bit nervous but still was good.
              and Eli cant win with a defense that can keep a team under 21 in the SB????
              "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
              You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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              • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                why wouldnt I consider them hybrids??? they have designed running plays also. when you guys talk about "running qb's" it makes it seem they can't pass . i am telling you the wave of the future QB's can do both, and that is hard to defend.
                they have designed running plays?? Ben and Flacco....???

                ahhh....ok I guess.....
                "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                • Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                  Flacco????
                  Ben????
                  Eli moves in the pocket enough to extend plays like Flacco and Ben for sure. Why is having a QB like Eli being stuck in the stone age??
                  I'm sure you're not saying that Eli moves as well as either one of these guys....especially Ben. Right?
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                    Days of collins and bledsoe are over , lead footed golems are not going to win anymore.

                    move in the athletic QB that can do both.
                    and obvioulsy you think thats what Eli is...a leadfooted golem....hmmm.....
                    "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                    You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                      I'm sure you're not saying that Eli moves as well as either one of these guys....especially Ben. Right?
                      no ....of course not. But I would never call Ben or Flacco a hybris like others here have...
                      "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                      You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                      • Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                        and obvioulsy you think thats what Eli is...a leadfooted golem....hmmm.....
                        A leadfooted, Goofy golem.

                        For the record I have no idea what a "golem" is but i approve of its use on this MB.
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          These things aren't obvious until you suit up and play a bit in the NFL.
                          There have been many QB's who teams hoped and believed had "IT", and didn't. And I'm sure many teams thought a guy like Brady didn't have 'IT" at all.

                          "IT" is hard to identify.
                          Agree. The measurables are there for all to see from afar but the intangibles are the most important aspect of any football player and for that matter in a QB to analize and obviously not a science like you said knowing who is going to pan out. That been said so many times the writting is on the wall about some players but FO, GMs and coaches get lost in the hype and make bad desicions all the time about drafting the wrong players.
                          " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.

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                          • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                            The Redskins went 10-6 and made the playoffs.
                            And Seattle lost in the Divisional Round. However, Kaep only ran 2 or 3 times in the NFCCG win against Atlanta.

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                            • Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                              they have designed running plays?? Ben and Flacco....???

                              ahhh....ok I guess.....
                              Yeah. There might be a QB sneak in there, or an occasional boot. They have nothing like RG III, Kaep, or even Wilson.

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                              • Giants should draft the best available QB and not necessarily look for a Kaepernick breed. The best available QB when we next draft a franchise QB could be a Peyton Manning who is a pure pocket passer and we better not pass up on that guy so we can get someone more mobile. This is a fad right now, it would normalize eventually. If this mobile QB using pistol offense starts putting up "greatest show on turf" type numbers consistently, then we have a valid argument but until then there's nothing revolutionary here. Nothing that a defense can prepare and eventually defend.

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