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  • #31
    Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
    Compared to Eli, everyone can move. I wouldn't say avoiding pass rushers behind the LoS makes one a hybrid QB.
    No, but he actually can move. Not like the newer wave of QB's, but he doesn't just lumber out of the pocket for a 1 yard gain and slide either.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
      No, but he actually can move. Not like the newer wave of QB's, but he doesn't just lumber out of the pocket for a 1 yard gain and slide either.
      No one is afraid of Flacco's "mobility". You don't factor him rushing down the field for 10+ yard chunks when you gameplan your defense against him. You have to be able to pick up significant yardage on the ground to be in that hybrid category. If anything, Flacco is a really well built QB with a tall frame that can absorb damage well and has the arm to make any throws from the pocket.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
        No one is afraid of Flacco's "mobility". You don't factor him rushing down the field for 10+ yard chunks when you gameplan your defense against him. You have to be able to pick up significant yardage on the ground to be in that hybrid category. If anything, Flacco is a really well built QB with a tall frame that can absorb damage well and has the arm to make any throws from the pocket.
        No, you don't expect him o burn you with his legs, but he is not a statue either.

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        • #34
          Look, he does prefer the pocket, no doubt. Just saying he can run if needed and looks natural doing it.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
            Look, he does prefer the pocket, no doubt. Just saying he can run if needed and looks natural doing it.
            Flacco can't run are you kidding me? Runners get you chunks of yards like Kaeps did yesterday. QB need to be mobile in the pocket. They need excellent pocket awareness. They don't always have to think about running for big gains. Flacco showed some pocket presence last night, but he did not show any running ability. LOL what game did you watch

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
              Look, he does prefer the pocket, no doubt. Just saying he can run if needed and looks natural doing it.
              With this I agree. He's very good in the pocket and can create time to throw. He's not looking to run for yards really, but he's can get around in the pocket.
              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                its obvious the hybrid guys who are a true double threat like RG3,Kapernick Big ben, Flacco . these guys are not scramblers but true hybrid beings using todays modern technology to win Superbowls.

                we can't get stuck in a stone aged old fashion one way to skin a cat thinking process.
                Ha . . . is that Eric the Midget with Artie?

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                • #38
                  To deal with the OP's point. I would say what guys like Kaepernick and Russell Wilson have shown, is that being a pocket passer is no longer the only way to win.
                  You can have a QB who can and will run the football, and have a very dynamic offense.
                  That doesn't mean you can't win just as well as always with a pocket passer.
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                    To deal with the OP's point. I would say what guys like Kaepernick and Russell Wilson have shown, is that being a pocket passer is no longer the only way to win.
                    This isn't a knock on the two QB but what exactly have they won?? Until one wins a SB they haven't shown us anything.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by EliDaMANning View Post
                      This isn't a knock on the two QB but what exactly have they won?? Until one wins a SB they haven't shown us anything.
                      They have shown us plenty. To deny this or to place the standard that they "have to win a SB" is ridiculous.
                      Right now. SF, Seattle and Washington (with a healthy RG) have better offenses than ours.
                      The only thing that hurt Kaepernick and SF last night was his inexperience. Other than that, he was lights out.
                      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      • #41
                        The SF defense was way more suspect last night than Kaeperdoodle and the offense. Where was the secondary they talk up so much? What about Aldon Smith the "pass rushing" phenom? At least Jim Caldwell redeemed himself in a sense and won't just be remembered as that guy who wrecked the Colts.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                          The SF defense was way more suspect last night than Kaeperdoodle and the offense. Where was the secondary they talk up so much? What about Aldon Smith the "pass rushing" phenom? At least Jim Caldwell redeemed himself in a sense and won't just be remembered as that guy who wrecked the Colts.
                          Or you could give some credit to Flacco. He played a great game and made some great throws.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
                            Or you could give some credit to Flacco. He played a great game and made some great throws.
                            My post has nothing to do with Flacco. Simply saying that if you are being fair in assessing the 49ers game as a whole, the defense was underwhelming to say the least. With all the hype they receive, they should have played much better.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
                              Or you could give some credit to Flacco. He played a great game and made some great throws.
                              I thought both QB's played very well. The only difference (and what probably cost SF the game) was Kaepernick's inexperience.
                              I mean the kid had 9 starts going into that game. That's a huge stage for a kid with that amount of experience. He played great but the time management was horrible at the end.
                              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                                My post has nothing to do with Flacco. Simply saying that if you are being fair in assessing the 49ers game as a whole, the defense was underwhelming to say the least. With all the hype they receive, they should have played much better.
                                Did the defense play bad or was the QB play very good? Or both?

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