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  • i just think there's going to be a trade off for these mobile QBs. the advantage will be that they'll add a strategic problem for defenses that will make their job throwing the ball easier than against a true pocket passer.

    But there's no way they're going to be nearly as accomplished at throwing the ball because they have that option to run.

    That's not to say you can't be great at throwing the ball AND offer a rushing threat, but the best hybrid will never be as good throwing the ball as the best pocket passer.
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    • Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
      i just think there's going to be a trade off for these mobile QBs. the advantage will be that they'll add a strategic problem for defenses that will make their job throwing the ball easier than against a true pocket passer.

      But there's no way they're going to be nearly as accomplished at throwing the ball because they have that option to run.

      That's not to say you can't be great at throwing the ball AND offer a rushing threat, but the best hybrid will never be as good throwing the ball as the best pocket passer.
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      • Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
        i just think there's going to be a trade off for these mobile QBs. the advantage will be that they'll add a strategic problem for defenses that will make their job throwing the ball easier than against a true pocket passer.

        But there's no way they're going to be nearly as accomplished at throwing the ball because they have that option to run.

        That's not to say you can't be great at throwing the ball AND offer a rushing threat, but the best hybrid will never be as good throwing the ball as the best pocket passer.
        I don't get it. If a guy can run he can take off when everyone is covered so he'd throw fewer picks and incompletions.
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        • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
          horrible points trueblue, the question isnt that the QB should run more, its that he is faster and more mobile. flacco and big ben are that hybrid type they can do both.
          Referring to Ben and Flacco as "hybrids" is way off the mark. They are just pocket passers (Ben to a far greater extent) who can extend plays with mobility.
          I wouldn't say that Aaron Rodgers is a "hybrid" QB.
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          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
            I don't get it. If a guy can run he can take off when everyone is covered so he'd throw fewer picks and incompletions.
            If he cant read the field, doesn't anticipate throws, or fully trust his WRs then he can run all day but wont be a good QB
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            • Different types of good qbs are still in the future not just mobile ones. There are not that many guys who are mobile and can pass the ball in this world..

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              • Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
                That's not to say you can't be great at throwing the ball AND offer a rushing threat, but the best hybrid will never be as good throwing the ball as the best pocket passer.
                Isn't that kind of a given though? If you lack the mobility to be an additional threat in the ground game like a Kaep, RG3, Wilson, or Cam, you're essentially forced to put more emphasis on making reads from the pocket and knowing how to diagnose a defense prior to the snap. Not that I disagree with you but a blind man should always have better hearing 9 times out of 10 over a normal man. The right way to go is to find a raw athletic QB type who isn't already "designed" to run first so you can mold him into the QB you want and that's a pass first and run 2nd type. There are a few times when I wish Eli could just go 5 yards forward instead of having to force a throw into a tight window.

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                • Originally posted by Kase-1 View Post
                  If he cant read the field, doesn't anticipate throws, or fully trust his WRs then he can run all day but wont be a good QB
                  So your view is that if a QB can run well, that means that he can't throw it well, he can't read defenses, he has no trust in his WR's and can't anticipate.
                  Please explain how the ability to run effects any of these things.
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                  • like i said many are stuck in old school thinking that if a QB is mobile he cant throw

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                    • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                      like i said many are stuck in old school thinking that if a QB is mobile he cant throw
                      That seems to be the case.
                      Someone might want to take note that Kaepernick threw for 300 yards last night and made some great throws.
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                      • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                        So your view is that if a QB can run well, that means that he can't throw it well, he can't read defenses, he has no trust in his WR's and can't anticipate.
                        Please explain how the ability to run effects any of these things.
                        I have no idea how you got that from my post but I was saying if he cant do those things it doesn't matter how well he runs the ball. If you can run and do those things in addition to throwing the ball well then you have the makings of a good QB
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                        • Originally posted by Kase-1 View Post
                          I have no idea how you got that from my post but I was saying if he cant do those things it doesn't matter how well he runs the ball. If you can run and do those things in addition to throwing the ball well then you have the makings of a good QB
                          As I said in earlier posts....A QB MUST be a good pocket passer to win in this league. If he can run that is a great addition to his game. But being a great runner isn't enough by itself. Being a great passer in the NFL is.
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                          • Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post

                            That's not to say you can't be great at throwing the ball AND offer a rushing threat, but the best hybrid will never be as good throwing the ball as the best pocket passer.
                            i respectfully disagree, in the future you will see these new breeds of humans will in fact be true double threats.

                            We will soon see some god like QB's doing it all.
                            Last edited by Harooni; 02-04-2013, 02:21 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                              i respectfully disagree, in the future you will see these new breed of humans will in fact be true double threats.

                              We will soon see some god like QB's doing it all.
                              I think you're right on that.
                              The most athletic kids weren't playing QB before. they were RB's, WR's, DB's etc.....
                              Now these kids in highschool with great athleticism are playing QB. So the pipeline is being filed with these kinds of kids.
                              There are going to be a lot more athletic QB's in the NFL over the next 10 years.
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                              • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                                That seems to be the case.
                                Someone might want to take note that Kaepernick threw for 300 yards last night and made some great throws.
                                this is exactly why i do not like when some say "oh he is a running QB" because it discredits that QB as a passer.

                                all QB's are passers. that is the position.

                                Flacco and kap for example are both hybrids. now one is younger and faster and may go to the run option more but that is nether here nor there.

                                Fans like to think Flacco is a pocket passer as they define it but its not correct.

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