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  • #46
    And he was never really great, even at his best he want atop 10 corner..... It really would not be that difficult to replace

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    • #47
      Top 10 corners don't grow on trees.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by BigJ View Post
        ok so can we say that the years before he was good because our dline was so good???
        In part, yes. Good DL play helps the entire secondary. Webster had a bad year. So, did the DL. If the DL gets a pass, so should Webster.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
          Corey Toaster...
          +1. Now if only we had somebody like gee, I don't know... Richard Sherman. Would be epic. Hopefully a good draft helps. Toaster was horrible in game against Baltimore.
          2017 Mock Draft

          1st: Forrest Lamp, OG Western Kentucky
          2nd: Caleb Brantley, DT Florida
          3rd: Gerald Everett, TE South Alabama
          4th: Dont'a Foreman, RB Texas
          5th: Damontae Kazee, CB San Diego State
          6th: KD Cannon, WR Baylor
          7th: Jalen Reeves-Maybin, LB Tennessee

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          • #50
            We can't just cut him without having a plan on how to get better. We cut Ahmad because we have TWO good, young backs to replace him. We cut Canty because we have Linval who played very well, and another young DT in Austin. We cut Boley knowing we have Jacquain coming back. All of those positions are on the field one at a time.

            In a pass-heavy league, we need THREE good corners available as many as HALF of our defensive snaps. At least when people talk about running backs, they have viable options that can be pointed to: Jacobs, Bush, Greene, etc...

            Where are the viable options for corners on this year's market? I can see Brent Grimes, who was very good in 2011, but barely played because of injury this year, just like Gamble, and Talib, who has so many off the field issues I'm not sure anyone is going to pony up for him. Add to that he's already in the Patriots system and has indicated he would like to stay....... Where are the options?

            Good, not great cornerbacks get 6-7 million. That's what Sean Smith in Miami is asking for. Exactly, who?!

            http://www.footballsfuture.com/2013/fa/db.html

            http://nfltraderumors.co/2013-nfl-free-agents/

            I like nfltraderumors.co but if you look at the list for cornerbacks, I don't see any slam dunk guys who will CLEARLY be better than Webster next year. Anyone who would, is going to cost at least 5 million. How do you replace him?

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            • #51
              I can play corner...

              all I need is a mustache and i'm good to go.
              Mood: WOOF!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                I can play corner...

                all I need is a mustache and i'm good to go.
                Are you German? lol

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Sosynciere View Post
                  We can't just cut him without having a plan on how to get better. We cut Ahmad because we have TWO good, young backs to replace him. We cut Canty because we have Linval who played very well, and another young DT in Austin. We cut Boley knowing we have Jacquain coming back. All of those positions are on the field one at a time.

                  In a pass-heavy league, we need THREE good corners available as many as HALF of our defensive snaps. At least when people talk about running backs, they have viable options that can be pointed to: Jacobs, Bush, Greene, etc...

                  Where are the viable options for corners on this year's market? I can see Brent Grimes, who was very good in 2011, but barely played because of injury this year, just like Gamble, and Talib, who has so many off the field issues I'm not sure anyone is going to pony up for him. Add to that he's already in the Patriots system and has indicated he would like to stay....... Where are the options?

                  Good, not great cornerbacks get 6-7 million. That's what Sean Smith in Miami is asking for. Exactly, who?!

                  http://www.footballsfuture.com/2013/fa/db.html

                  http://nfltraderumors.co/2013-nfl-free-agents/

                  I like nfltraderumors.co but if you look at the list for cornerbacks, I don't see any slam dunk guys who will CLEARLY be better than Webster next year. Anyone who would, is going to cost at least 5 million. How do you replace him?
                  If we got a guy that would give us the level of production we normally see from Webster, then we'd save $2m by cutting Webster and signing that guy.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by JJC7301 View Post
                    I'd try to get him to take a cut, but would keep him at 7M if necessary for one 1-YR. I'm paying him for 1 more year based on what he's proven in his career. He's not old.

                    How do we know that we can get a better corner in the draft? Someone who's ready to start from day 1 opposite Prince?

                    Web had 4 or 5 excellent years in a row. I'm not going to destroy what's left of any depth that we have in the secondary.
                    great post.

                    this could be slump and he could play better.

                    i'd rather see one more year with webby than go out in the market and overpay (because you overpay for everything in the NFL unless its a 1 yr deal) for some guy that another team doesn't want.
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                    • #55
                      Webster's situation is similar to Osi's last year. You get 1 final year out of him and then you know he's gone. Didn't work out so well with Osi last year. Web is one of my favorite Giants but he was terrible last year. I believe in the adage to get rid of him a year too early rather than a year too late. Only problem is no replacement is on the horizon. I think he stays.

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                      • #56
                        I was never a Webster fan.........HOWEVER.......this was the first year he did not play up to his potential. He isn't a shut-down corner...but Webster has proven time and time again that he can hold his own with top receivers. He's had great games, (albeit he does get burned), but to cut him, I think with his veteran status would be foolish. With Prince coming to his own, and Web on the other side, Hosley in waiting, I think '13 will be a great secondary year for the jints.

                        And Sam Madison was a safety.
                        I miss Red Hook

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by bklyn1028 View Post
                          I was never a Webster fan.........HOWEVER.......this was the first year he did not play up to his potential. He isn't a shut-down corner...but Webster has proven time and time again that he can hold his own with top receivers. He's had great games, (albeit he does get burned), but to cut him, I think with his veteran status would be foolish. With Prince coming to his own, and Web on the other side, Hosley in waiting, I think '13 will be a great secondary year for the jints.

                          And Sam Madison was a safety.
                          +1

                          what year haven't we had at least 2 corners go down at the same time with injuries?

                          without webby we've got prince and hosely (i'm not holding my breath on TT at all).

                          after that, we'll have corners that only we rabid fans will know the names of.

                          we can't play in our division with a potential no name starting at corner.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by CDN_G-FAN View Post
                            +1

                            what year haven't we had at least 2 corners go down at the same time with injuries?

                            without webby we've got prince and hosely (i'm not holding my breath on TT at all).

                            after that, we'll have corners that only we rabid fans will know the names of.

                            we can't play in our division with a potential no name starting at corner.
                            Also, something that may help out... I think if we match CB on receivers (instead of going L/R), Prince very well see more time matching up against the other team's number 1.

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                            • #59
                              If we get tough agian up front everything else will work itself out. We need to get big and strong at defensive talke and make sure our offensive line can hold it's own against anybody.

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                              • #60
                                Toaster.
                                2017 Mock Draft

                                1st: Forrest Lamp, OG Western Kentucky
                                2nd: Caleb Brantley, DT Florida
                                3rd: Gerald Everett, TE South Alabama
                                4th: Dont'a Foreman, RB Texas
                                5th: Damontae Kazee, CB San Diego State
                                6th: KD Cannon, WR Baylor
                                7th: Jalen Reeves-Maybin, LB Tennessee

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