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  • Besides Mara put it on the agent as asking for too much... he kept Cruz out of the statement.

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    • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
      I admittedly don't know a lot about the inner workings of professional football. I do know about contract negotiations. This is how it usually works. One side presents a proposal, the other side laughs out loud and says we can't give you the moon. The original proposer says well then we want the sun and the stars, and the other side say we'll consider the sun and half of the stars....... Each side knows going in the line they will not cross. When that point is reached by either side, sabres rattle.

      It's a process, it takes time, they have time.
      Its all about the money! If he doesn't get it from the Giants, he will move on!
      Players come and go on the Free Agency Merry-Go-Round, but the N.Y. Giants will always be here!

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      • Originally posted by bigjeep View Post
        Its all about the money! If he doesn't get it from the Giants, he will move on!
        No doubt
        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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        • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
          Link?
          Post 187
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
            I'm not surprised at all that Mara addressed this today after Cruz came out and said yesterday that there has been no progress on the contract. Also this is John Mara's team, and his money..the guy can say whatever he wants
            It's his team, but not his money. The players' salaries are completely covered by TV contracts
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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            • Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
              I'm not surprised at all that Mara addressed this today after Cruz came out and said yesterday that there has been no progress on the contract. Also this is John Mara's team, and his money..the guy can say whatever he wants
              Right right.

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              • Suppose we lose Cruz..

                Does that mean we draft a WR in the 1st? Or do we ride with Nicks/Randle/Hixon/Jernigan?
                Mood: WOOF!

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                • http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...is_a_limi.html

                  Excerpt: ""We certainly want him back, but like with any player, there's a limit to where we’re going to go," Mara said today. "He's been a terrific player for us, he’s a fan favorite, he does a lot for our franchise, but there is a limit."

                  Mara made clear that there is a limit with any player, because of the salary cap and needs elsewhere on the roster. But it sounds like there is a financial disconnect between the sides, even though during the season Cruz was open about the ongoing negotiations and said there was a "structure" in place for a new contract.

                  Asked if Cruz's asking price is unreasonable, Mara said, "Well, right now, but that’s his agent. But that’s what agents do, and we’ve got a lot of time to work something out, and hopefully we’ll be able to come together."

                  Mara said "we have a year to get that worked out." Cruz has played three NFL seasons and is a restricted free agent, so the Giants could tender him to hold onto him in the short-term while they continue to work on a long-term deal." Read more...

                  The highlighted phrase is very telling in terms of the team's position. They are willing to negotiate until they have to tender but after they put the tender in place, they are clearly willing to continue to negotiate. That's about as fair a process as he's going to get. Whether they come to a meeting of the financial minds is still to be determined, but the Giants are clearly looking at keeping Cruz if they can or Mara would not have said they have a year to get it done.

                  Of course that doesn't mean Cruz has to wait, but it's more to his advantage to do that than not, unless he get s freakishly lucrative offer from a team that is going to be in the hunt in 2013.
                  “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                  • Another Cruz thread?

                    It's not likely we'll lose him for 2013, if at all
                    Last edited by RoanokeFan; 02-01-2013, 06:52 PM.
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                      Another Cruz thread?

                      It's not likely we'll lose him for 2013, if at all
                      bingo
                      Last edited by RoanokeFan; 02-01-2013, 06:53 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                        Another Cruz thread?

                        It's not likely we'll lose hin for 2013, if at all
                        Love the optimism.

                        YES, ANOTHER CRUZ THREAD.
                        Mood: WOOF!

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                        • Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
                          bingo
                          I just added another link of John Mara's comments to the REAL Cruz thread In that report, Mara says they "have a year" to work this out so they are clearly not giving up on Cruz even if they have to tender him, they will continue to negotiate with his people.
                          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                          • Could someone give me the dates of restricted free agency? also, why does Cruz say we have a year to work it out. He could be gone this year? A receiver needy team like the phins could offer him 10 million a year, the Giants choose not to match, and the phins send the Giants their 1st rounder, and walla Cruz is wearing white and green next year. Am I missing something?

                            Thanks guys.

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                            • Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                              Love the optimism.

                              YES, ANOTHER CRUZ THREAD.
                              If you weren't his intended, it would have been axed
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                              • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                                Post 187
                                that's too much work. Ughh, I have to click like two pages backk urggghghghh.
                                Mood: WOOF!

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